My first Glock

[Pond Scum 43]

I like the Dunkin Donuts box best in JaPes thread. #45

 

[n.e.mich]

I started out with a G27 to replace my 38 Super Commander. Liked it a lot and at the same time, they had used G22's on sale, so I bought both and sold my S & W 40 bedroom gun. Accuracy was so-so (2 1/2 to 3" @ 7 yards). Was reading up on the 357 Sig and bought a conversion barrel. Groups shrank to 1 1/2 ". Bought another (ported) for my bedroom gun. Bought a G26 for my wife. It jammed EVERY time SHE shot it but NEVER for me. We looked at the G43 and got her one of those==NO JAMS! Same thing with a buddy's G26. It jams with female shooters but is fine for men. Seems to be ergonomics as a third female shooter has the same problem. I switched grips on my G26 and it works better (not flawlessly) for them. But all three can shoot the G43 with no issues.

Beware! Glocks can get pricey. I now own a G22 (converted to 357 Sig with a laser sight), a G27 (converted to 357 Sig), a G26 (slight modifications), and a G20 (10mm). I bought the G20 after reading about the Greenland dogsled patrols and how effective it was on polar bears.

Wife has her G43 EDC and a nightstand G43 with laser.

Don't need any more but there's an itch starting!

OK, I had to quote this because my wife shot the 17 yesterday and it jammed TWICE in the four shots she took. I shot 6 mags and not a single issue. She has tiny hands though (I know, I know ) and I assume there is a trigger pull issue, especially now after I read this post!

 

[n.e.mich]

I think there is no better weapon for home defense. If someone was kicking in my door, I'd want a Glock 17 in my hand. I own two G17's and would trust them over any other currently manufactured handgun.

I agree it would be a great home defense gun, I will grab the short Mossberg 12 gauge loaded with 00 buckshot first though.

 

[n.e.mich]

I like the Dunkin Donuts box best in JaPes thread. #45

LOL! I had to go back and look.

 

[ImNobody2]

OK, I had to quote this because my wife shot the 17 yesterday and it jammed TWICE in the four shots she took. I shot 6 mags and not a single issue. She has tiny hands though (I know, I know ) and I assume there is a trigger pull issue, especially now after I read this post!

Trigger pull doesn't have anything to do with the cycling of the gun. If the bullet goes bang, it is the same force regardless of the trigger pull.

What is likely happening is she is holding the gun "limp wristed." This means she isn't holding the gun firm enough and it allows the gun to move in her hands after being fired. This movement actually absorbs some of the recoil energy which is used to cycle the gun. If enough energy is absorbed, it will actually prevent the gun from cycling properly. Some guns are more prone to this issue than others, and of course it depends on the individual holding the gun too.

 

[viceunit]

Trigger pull doesn't have anything to do with the cycling of the gun. If the bullet goes bang, it is the same force regardless of the trigger pull.

What is likely happening is she is holding the gun "limp wristed." This means she isn't holding the gun firm enough and it allows the gun to move in her hands after being fired. This movement actually absorbs some of the recoil energy which is used to cycle the gun. If enough energy is absorbed, it will actually prevent the gun from cycling properly. Some guns are more prone to this issue than others, and of course it depends on the individual holding the gun too.

We had many shooters on our department that had trouble with this when we transitioned to G17 from revolvers. Some male, some female. Mostly non-gun type people. It was a transitional training issue that we had to stay on top of. When we switched to the 40S&W, the problem seemed to disappear due to the stronger/sharper recoil impulse of the 40.

 

[Mister X]

Trigger pull doesn't have anything to do with the cycling of the gun. If the bullet goes bang, it is the same force regardless of the trigger pull.

What is likely happening is she is holding the gun "limp wristed." This means she isn't holding the gun firm enough and it allows the gun to move in her hands after being fired. This movement actually absorbs some of the recoil energy which is used to cycle the gun. If enough energy is absorbed, it will actually prevent the gun from cycling properly. Some guns are more prone to this issue than others, and of course it depends on the individual holding the gun too.

If she has exceptionally small hands, I think trigger reach(that may have been what he actually meant) very well could contribute to the malfunctions by forcing her to rotate her hand around the grip excessively to reach the trigger to the point where alignment and support is inadequate enough to provide a stable enough platform for the gun to operate properly. And if she has tiny hands, she also likely has proportionally small wrists and muscular system making limp-wristing even more likely.

Proper gun fit and shooting technique can mitigate many of these issues, but in an actual defense scenario, a stable two handed grip is a luxury not often possible, so I think it imperative(especially for women) to practice shooting one handed, while moving and from awkward positions to make sure their defense weapon will be reliable for them.

 

[sheepdawg]

OK, I had to quote this because my wife shot the 17 yesterday and it jammed TWICE in the four shots she took. I shot 6 mags and not a single issue. She has tiny hands though (I know, I know ) and I assume there is a trigger pull issue, especially now after I read this post!

Finally a Glock owner that admits to a FTF.

 

[n.e.mich]

Trigger pull doesn't have anything to do with the cycling of the gun. If the bullet goes bang, it is the same force regardless of the trigger pull.

What is likely happening is she is holding the gun "limp wristed." This means she isn't holding the gun firm enough and it allows the gun to move in her hands after being fired. This movement actually absorbs some of the recoil energy which is used to cycle the gun. If enough energy is absorbed, it will actually prevent the gun from cycling properly. Some guns are more prone to this issue than others, and of course it depends on the individual holding the gun too.

Ahhhh, that makes a lot more sense. Kind of odd it only happened to this Glock, never with my shield 9mm or her LC9. Must be the larger grip size compared to those.

 

[hkcavalier]

I haven't found anything better than my G34 Gen3 with night sights for HD.

 

[Mister X]

Short Fingers and Fat Butts: Handgun Fit for Defensive Shooting - USConcealedCarry.com - Concealed Carry

 

[jimmyj]

I stopped by a LGS and compared a Glock M30 and a Glock M36 this A.M.
The Glock M36 felt better in my hand (6 rd. magazine) than the Glock M30 (10 rd. magazine) but has the ability to accept M21 magazines (13 rd.)
P.S. Please don't let Penny find out I was at a LGS-I was tasked with running her errands)

Jimmy (aka Wimp Man)

 

[n.e.mich]

I haven't found anything better than my G34 Gen3 with night sights for HD.

Very nice!

Like I said though, I would choose the 12 ga over all pistols..

The Shield is in the nightstand though...The Mossberg lives in the corner of the bedroom. But, I think the best deterrent is my black lab, I wouldn't want to come across him in the middle of the night. LOL

 

[jimmyj]

My First Glock

I started out with a G27 to replace my 38 Super Commander. Liked it a lot and at the same time, they had used G22's on sale, so I bought both and sold my S & W 40 bedroom gun. Accuracy was so-so (2 1/2 to 3" @ 7 yards). Was reading up on the 357 Sig and bought a conversion barrel. Groups shrank to 1 1/2 ". Bought another (ported) for my bedroom gun. Bought a G26 for my wife. It jammed EVERY time SHE shot it but NEVER for me. We looked at the G43 and got her one of those==NO JAMS! Same thing with a buddy's G26. It jams with female shooters but is fine for men. Seems to be ergonomics as a third female shooter has the same problem. I switched grips on my G26 and it works better (not flawlessly) for them. But all three can shoot the G43 with no issues

Beware! Glocks can get pricey. I now own a G22 (converted to 357 Sig with a laser sight), a G27 (converted to 357 Sig), a G26 (slight modifications), and a G20 (10mm). I bought the G20 after reading about the Greenland dogsled patrols and how effective it was on polar bears.

Wife has her G43 EDC and a nightstand G43 with laser.

Don't need any more but there's an itch starting!

*** Just a friendly suggestion : DO NOT let the S&W Administrators find out you sold a S&W to purchase a GLOCK !

 

[Kanewpadle]

I stopped by a LGS and compared a Glock M30 and a Glock M36 this A.M.
The Glock M36 felt better in my hand (6 rd. magazine) than the Glock M30 (10 rd. magazine) but has the ability to accept M21 magazines (13 rd.)
P.S. Please don't let Penny find out I was at a LGS-I was tasked with running her errands)

Jimmy (aka Wimp Man)

I would suggest the 30S Jimmy. Heck of a gun that fits well.

 

[BearBio]

*** Just a friendly suggestion : DO NOT let the S&W Administrators find out you sold a S&W to purchase a GLOCK !

Didn't==sold the S & W AFTER I bought the Glocks.

 

[pawncop]

Congratulations, solid handgun. I carry a Glock model 32 as my primary off duty sidearm.

 

[jdlii]

Just like my cousin, it needs no special care, only feeding!

 

[hkcavalier]

Very nice!

Like I said though, I would choose the 12 ga over all pistols..

The Shield is in the nightstand though...The Mossberg lives in the corner of the bedroom. But, I think the best deterrent is my black lab, I wouldn't want to come across him in the middle of the night. LOL

My house is pretty tight, but in the event of some kind of emergency/power outage/etc I bring out my Mossy too. Since this pic I've added a light up front.

 

[Mister X]

A shotgun is conventional wisdom for many, but I think defaulting to a pistol as the primary choice makes a lot more sense. That doesn't mean a shotgun or any long gun isn't viable or can't play a role, I just think if anything, it's suitability is fairly limited in the context of civilian home defense.

From David Kenik...

Armed Response - Tips for the Armed Citizen: Long gun or pistol in the home?

From Chris Costa...

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