My First Victory Model (Updated with New Photos)

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I keep telling myself no more K frames! I've got enough already. Then I'll come across something a little bit different that I just have to have. I bought my first Victory Model the other day. It was not a whole lot of money, so I grabbed it. The grips are wrong, the lanyard loop is missing, and it is a little bit the worse for wear, but the chambers and bore are pristine, so I said what the heck and bought it.

I just had it apart and cleaned out a few decades of hardened oil and gunk.

Here are a few photos.

victory01.jpg


victory02.jpg


First off, how about a guess as to when it was made, please. As you can see, the SN is V4224XX. This particular gun has no military markings on it except for the flying bomb next to the SN. I have read this makes it a civillian model, probably sold to the Post Office or some similar agency. Did all the Victory models have the flying bomb on them?

victorybutt02.jpg


The seam around the side plate is much more noticeable on this gun than any of my other Smiths. At first I thought maybe somebody had filed down the sideplate to make it a looser fit. Turns out the edge of the frame all around the side plate has a slight radius running all around the top edge, highlighting the seam. The sideplate is nice and tight, it required a good bit of tapping on the grip frame to get it to rise up, there is just has this slight radius running around the top edge of the frame cut. Is this typical of Victory models, or did I get one that has been altered?


Here is a couple of photos of the markings on the grip frame. Anything of any particular meaning here?

victorygripmarkings01.jpg


victorygripmarkings02.jpg


This gun has the older style spring type hammer block that is pinned to the side plate, rather than the more modern sliding hammer block. I take it that since the SN does not have a SV prefix that it is correct.

One more question. I would like to replace the Magna grips with something a little bit more correct, but doubt if I can find any real service grips for a reasonable amount of money. Does anybody remember the name of that outfit that is making reasonably good replica wooden grips for older Smiths? I put a pair on one of my Brazillian 1917s, but I can't find any information about where I bought them.

Thanks for looking, and thanks for any answers you can give me.

P.S. I took it to the range last weekend and put some of my standard 158 grain semi-wadcutter loads through it. It's quite a shooter, it held some very tight groups. I was a little bit surprised, because the barrel/cylinder gap is huge, around .015 or so. I was expecting to get lead spitting and poor accuracy, but I was very pleasantly surprised.
 
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I keep telling myself no more K frames! I've got enough already. Then I'll come across something a little bit different that I just have to have. I bought my first Victory Model the other day. It was not a whole lot of money, so I grabbed it. The grips are wrong, the lanyard loop is missing, and it is a little bit the worse for wear, but the chambers and bore are pristine, so I said what the heck and bought it.

I just had it apart and cleaned out a few decades of hardened oil and gunk.

Here are a few photos.

victory01.jpg


victory02.jpg


First off, how about a guess as to when it was made, please. As you can see, the SN is V4224XX. This particular gun has no military markings on it except for the flying bomb next to the SN. I have read this makes it a civillian model, probably sold to the Post Office or some similar agency. Did all the Victory models have the flying bomb on them?

victorybutt02.jpg


The seam around the side plate is much more noticeable on this gun than any of my other Smiths. At first I thought maybe somebody had filed down the sideplate to make it a looser fit. Turns out the edge of the frame all around the side plate has a slight radius running all around the top edge, highlighting the seam. The sideplate is nice and tight, it required a good bit of tapping on the grip frame to get it to rise up, there is just has this slight radius running around the top edge of the frame cut. Is this typical of Victory models, or did I get one that has been altered?


Here is a couple of photos of the markings on the grip frame. Anything of any particular meaning here?

victorygripmarkings01.jpg


victorygripmarkings02.jpg


This gun has the older style spring type hammer block that is pinned to the side plate, rather than the more modern sliding hammer block. I take it that since the SN does not have a SV prefix that it is correct.

One more question. I would like to replace the Magna grips with something a little bit more correct, but doubt if I can find any real service grips for a reasonable amount of money. Does anybody remember the name of that outfit that is making reasonably good replica wooden grips for older Smiths? I put a pair on one of my Brazillian 1917s, but I can't find any information about where I bought them.

Thanks for looking, and thanks for any answers you can give me.

P.S. I took it to the range last weekend and put some of my standard 158 grain semi-wadcutter loads through it. It's quite a shooter, it held some very tight groups. I was a little bit surprised, because the barrel/cylinder gap is huge, around .015 or so. I was expecting to get lead spitting and poor accuracy, but I was very pleasantly surprised.
 
I would say that the sideplate has either been replaced, or the gun has been
refinished. Probably refinished, as that is what generally causes the edges of
the plate to be rounded off.

The large barrel to cylinder gap is strange - as though something else has been
done to the gun. Does the barrel and cylinder number to the frame ?

Later, Mike Priwer
 
Victory grips actually have been showing up on e-Bay fairly often.

Try Item# 290287867613

Also, it isn't clear from the picture, but are the trigger and hammer the same finish as the frame? Another indication of a refinish.
 
DJ,

Interesting Victory model. I may be able to help you out with the grips. Member Lee Barner sent me a couple of sets a while back and I have one left that you may be able to use. Shoot me an e-mail if interested.

Regards,

Jerry
 
Howdy Mike

It is not the edges of the plate that have been rounded off. They are crisp and sharp. It is the edge of the cut in the frame that surrounds the plate that has the radiused edge.

Yes, the numbers all match on the frame, underside of the barrel, rear of the cylinder and underside the extractor star.
 
Also, it isn't clear from the picture, but are the trigger and hammer the same finish as the frame? Another indication of a refinish.

Good point, I hadn't thought of that. Yes, the trigger and hammer appear to have been blued. I see what may be a hint of case colors under the blue, or it may just be that the blue is a little bit blotchy.
 
Gun parts has grips for the Victory and also lanyard rings too .Also Sarco list them in there last ad in shotgunnews.These are the real deal not repo`s I got some from gunparts and they look great. papabyrd
 
Howdy

Here are some updated photos of my Victory Model with grips and lanyard ring generously sent to me by J38. You meet the nicest folks on this forum. He sent me the grips and lanyard ring for free. I think my Victory Model looks great now.

VictoryModel02.jpg


VictoryModel01.jpg
 
Doug,

I'm happy to have been able to help you out. Again, the grips are really courtesy of Lee Barner. They do complete the Victory package.

Enjoy!

Jerry
 
Dear Driftwood: You will report immediately to the "Beaver School for the apparently flush in K frames" for some immediate sensitivity training. Too many? Not till you own all of them, my man. beaver.
 
I just found my first Victory. I've always loved K-frames, but my Victory feels as balanced and smooth as any revolver I've handled
 
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