My new, sawed off, Universal Firearms Corp Model 2012 20 gauge truck gun

[sigp220.45]

I have a buddy who knows my love of store brand guns. He spotted a 16 gauge Hercules (Monkey Wards) brand double on Armslist at a local gunstore. I finally went there and it was gone, but they had a Spanish double 20 gauge there for $159. A deal was struck, and my new prize came home.

Its a Universal Firearms Corp gun of Spanish heritage, apparently knocked together by Zabala Hermanos, which my rudimentary Spanglish tells me is the Zabala Brothers. The made a pretty decent little shotgun.



28 inch barrels, 3" chambers, trim wood, beavertail fore-end, ok recoil pad, two triggers, tight lockup, and some cheesy engraving.





I didn't need another bird gun, but I have been on the lookout for a 20 gauge coach gun to keep in my ride. This one looked like a good candidate for a kitchen table chop job.





I broke out the mitre box and hacksaw. They have served me well on two previous amputations - a JC Higgins pump and an ancient Remington Model 11.

As logic would suggest, sawing through two barrels is twice as difficult as sawing through one. That rib was a bear, too. But I endeavored to persevere, and soon the deed was done. 18 1/2 inches of open-choked blued steel.



Oh my, what a difference. I unscrewed the bead from the stub, drilled a hole of approximately the right size with the old Black and Decker, and secured the bead in its new home with a combination of elbow grease, foul language, and Locktite. It seems secure.

I filled in the gap between the barrels with the redneck's friend - JB Weld.







A trip to the basement turned up this stout zippered bag of just the right size.





I'll find something to wrap the pieces in, stash a variety of 20 gauge loads in there, and this will be my traveling gun.

I realize this makes me a modern day bubba, but I don't think the Zabala Brothers would mind.

 

[squidsix]

Gotta get the stock down to about 12" length of pull, and it'll be perfect. Oh, and I would tap the hole for the sight. I have had epoxied sights go flying.

 

[Skyhunter]

Oh, my, Goodness! 1968 has been resurrected!
The memories THAT brings back! Only difference is/was, mine is a Stevens 311 and the barrels are 19.25" - figgered it'd BE REAL HARD to mis-measure by an inch and a quarter!
Have had a lot of fun with that gun over the years; funny, EVERYONE that see's it wants one or mine!
You're gonna enjoy that shotgun!

WYT-P
Skyhunter

 

[sigp220.45]

I had the little booger out to the range today. Shot great - here are two rounds of 2 3/4" Number 3 buck at 7 yards.

 

[Sixgun100]

I like it! Think shotguns make great truck guns. I have a Remington Model 870 with barrel cut to 20" and Poly-Choke installed as my truck gun.

 

[colt_saa]

That is nice

I need to find a 20ga in that price range to shorten up.

But why so long on the barrels?

11" or 12" cylinder choke barrels group about the same as 18" ones at 7 yards. Plus the shorter tubes handle much better in tight places.

 

[Charlie Foxtrott]

159 bucks for a double barrelled shotgun.

That is hard to beat. I have a few double barreled shotguns. I am pretty fond of them. Nothing says go away better than the business end of one of them.

 

[scooter123]

That is nice

I need to find a 20ga in that price range to shorten up.

But why so long on the barrels?

11" or 12" cylinder choke barrels group about the same as 18" ones at 7 yards. Plus the shorter tubes handle much better in tight places.

Because the National Firearms Law mandates that shotguns in the hands of private citizens have a barrel length over 18 inches and an overall length greater that 26 inches when assembled. Unless of course if that citizen has submitted the paperwork for a Tax Stamp, engraved the receiver with the mandated identification, and passed the background check and paid the required 200 dollar fee. Now that you've posted a picture of that shorty if you don't have the critical exemption I would suggest that you get out a vertical band saw, split both barrels for their full length and the cut the barrel halves into 1 inch long pieces.

 

[rburg]

that you get out a vertical band saw, split both barrels for their full length and the cut the barrel halves into 1 inch long pieces.

How's that better than just chuckin' it in the river?

 

[colt_saa]

Because the National Firearms Law mandates that shotguns in the hands of private citizens have a barrel length over 18 inches and an overall length greater that 26 inches when assembled. Unless of course if that citizen has submitted the paperwork for a Tax Stamp, engraved the receiver with the mandated identification, and passed the background check and paid the required 200 dollar fee. Now that you've posted a picture of that shorty if you don't have the critical exemption I would suggest that you get out a vertical band saw, split both barrels for their full length and the cut the barrel halves into 1 inch long pieces.

WOW, I presume that your instruction to destroy my firearm was meant to be tongue in cheek.

That 12 gauge SxS has been pictured on this Forum multiple times since I made it a year or so ago.

Just as I have never and would never violate the Gun Control Act of 1968, I have not and would not violate the National Firearms Act of 1929 as amended in 1934. It makes no difference if I agree with them or not, at the moment they are the law and I am a law abiding Citizen

Your knowledge of the law is not too far off of the facts. There is no Federal Law that forbids Citizens of the United States from possessing shotguns of any barrel length, which also means that there is no such thing as an exemption. There are simply two categories of firearms under the National Firearms Act of 1929 as amended in 1934. They are refereed to as Title I and Title II. They require different pieces of paperwork for the transfer of ownership. There are no fees, but there are taxes. There might be additional State or Local laws where you live that impose restrictions upon their Citizens that go beyond what Federal Law requires. Fortunately that is not an issue where I live

So many folks try and make it sound overly scary or complicated. I am not sure why they want to frighten the public away from ownership of Title II firearms

Secondly, I am not sure how your post answers the question of why the OP did not choose to make the barrels shorter. Is there another post of sigp220.45's where I missed his comments regarding the National Firearms Act of 1929 as amended in 1934? Has he objected to paying the making tax, but has no problems paying the excise tax on firearms?

 

[sigp220.45]

I didn't cut the barrels shorter because I didn't want the hassle of doing the requisite paperwork. This was meant to be a low-dollar project. I like it fine the way it came out.

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

Also, if part of the reason for shortening the barrels is to make the arm easier to transport disassembled, exteme shortening is no aid. I have an O/U which I purchased shortened, and it was 20". It seemed obvious to me that it was taken to that length because that was the length of stock and action. Short enough.

 

[scooter123]

My post WAS a bit tongue in cheek but also to provide a bit of a warning to any newbies seeing your post. Because violating the Gun Control Act carries some rather drastic penalties, IIRC just possessing a short barreled shotgun without the requisite paperwork means 20 years in a Federal Lockup.

 

[6518John]

I had the little booger out to the range today. Shot great - here are two rounds of 2 3/4" Number 3 buck at 7 yards.

I think this would leave a mark! OUCH!

 

[keith44spl]

O Man O Man,


Ya know I'm liken that one for sure!




.

 

[TXSWFAN]

My plost WAS a bit tongue in cheek but also to provide a bit of a warning to any newbies seeing your post. Because violating the Gun Control Act carries some rather drastic penalties, IIRC just possessing a short barreled shotgun without the requisite paperwork means 20 years in a Federal Lockup.

There was nothing "tongue in cheek"about it. And it's ten years, not twenty.

That range pic made me squirm OP. Nice job.

 

[Walkingwolf]

It may just be me, but none of my guns will shoot around corners no matter how short the barrel is. But then mine were designed to put lead where the barrel is pointed. A short barrel may be easier to maneuver, but I never had a problem clearing buildings with the 870 dept shotgun.

 

[BAM-BAM]

My current LOL "Shorty Shotty" is a Mossberg 510 youth model ..... 20 gage, 18.5" barrel/OAL 34" ;12" LOP... with three in the tube...... 5lbs

This thread reopens an old idea...... I've got 2 O/Us; one is Spanish and one is Italian in the back of the safe...... I got both from gunsmiths/friends..... so they should be OK.....IIRC one has ejectors.................

anyway years ago thought it would be coool to cut one or both down to 18.something inches for the truck or side-by-side ATV.

Any thoughts or issues??????

 

[Watchdog]

Its a Universal Firearms Corp gun of Spanish heritage, apparently knocked together by Zabala Hermanos, which my rudimentary Spanglish tells me is the Zabala Brothers. The made a pretty decent little shotgun. 28 inch barrels, 3" chambers, trim wood, beavertail fore-end, ok recoil pad, two triggers, tight lockup, and some cheesy engraving.

I've always had a liking for short barrel doubles. I kinda like the "cheesy engraving". I think it adds to the whole homemade aesthetic you achieved by whacking off the barrels.

I think if I had that gun, I might get some little brass nails or tacks and do some sort of cheesy design on the stock. I mean...why not? Certainly wouldn't decrease the value any. Why not have some fun with it.

 

[sigp220.45]

I've always had a liking for short barrel doubles. I kinda like the "cheesy engraving". I think it adds to the whole homemade aesthetic you achieved by whacking off the barrels.

I think if I had that gun, I might get some little brass nails or tacks and do some sort of cheesy design on the stock. I mean...why not? Certainly wouldn't decrease the value any. Why not have some fun with it.

A friend of mine just bought a takedown Savage 99 that has a home-carved deer on one side of the stock and a naked lady on a flying trapeze on the other. I may go that route......