missiondude
Member
Yeah, no suprise there. This state is pretty much a lost cause with respect to getting pro-gun Senators. We are just way outnumbered by the anti's in this state, and it seems the balance is getting worse all the time.
My senator's vote on the Reciprocity bill
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Yeah, no suprise there. This state is pretty much a lost cause with respect to getting pro-gun Senators. We are just way outnumbered by the anti's in this state, and it seems the balance is getting worse all the time.
uncle norman
Member
I'm hoping that Mitch will run against Bayh but maybe we'd better hope he can at least take over Lugar's chair. I've heard that "Howdy Doody" might retire after this term.
cshoff
Member
m657 - What you got back is the same canned response his staffers send back to anyone regarding any firearm related issue. It, in fact, is very similar to the canned response our Senator, Claire McCaskill, sends out regaring firearms related issues.
The thing is, these people don't care nothing for our Second Amendment rights, they only care about keeping their cushy taxpayer funded jobs. They expect that most of their constituents will never take the time to express their opinions. They send out this kind of garbage because We The People have allowed them to.
The thing is, these people don't care nothing for our Second Amendment rights, they only care about keeping their cushy taxpayer funded jobs. They expect that most of their constituents will never take the time to express their opinions. They send out this kind of garbage because We The People have allowed them to.
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m657
Member
Sen. Merkley had big time support of the DNC to oust Sen. Smith, a 12 year veteran of gun rights, business & the basic virtues.
It was a close race up to the wee hours of the next morning when the lead was held by the new guy.
It was a close race up to the wee hours of the next morning when the lead was held by the new guy.
cmort666
Member
Both Ohio Senators voted against it. Of course Voinovich is a pathetic loser who kept Ohio from having concealed carry for years. He's not running again, and Ohio's the better for it.
OLDFED
Member
Congressional Votes
Don't ever forget that much of what our Congress votes for or against is a carefully planned system of vote trading, peer pressure...especially against junior members...and has little to do with either reality or the desires of "the people."
A senator recently said on TV at a public meeting, that congressmen rarely read a bill before voting. That says a whole lot about the seriousness of their votes and their jobs overall.
Britian, Canada, Australia and other countries have fallen in people's rights because they don't have a constitution like America's and they became apathetic. This is so clear in the British Isles and the gun ownership/hunting issues.
America is apathetic also. How many of you regularly write to your "leaders" and tell them what you really think? Of those who do, how many of you are satisfied with the canned responses you get in return?
I think it's well past time to get our heads out of the dark places and become attuned to what's going on in our state capitols and in Washington, D.C. Perhaps one of the best things to have happened is that we are now in an Obamanation...causing at least some of us to wake up and be heard.
Today, I emailed both of my state senators and told them that if they vote to confirm Sotomayor, I and my family will vote against them in the next election. As long as we remain complacent, we will never be heard. Just Google "Congress", find your representatives and email them.
It's time to stop the tail from wagging the dog!
Don't ever forget that much of what our Congress votes for or against is a carefully planned system of vote trading, peer pressure...especially against junior members...and has little to do with either reality or the desires of "the people."
A senator recently said on TV at a public meeting, that congressmen rarely read a bill before voting. That says a whole lot about the seriousness of their votes and their jobs overall.
Britian, Canada, Australia and other countries have fallen in people's rights because they don't have a constitution like America's and they became apathetic. This is so clear in the British Isles and the gun ownership/hunting issues.
America is apathetic also. How many of you regularly write to your "leaders" and tell them what you really think? Of those who do, how many of you are satisfied with the canned responses you get in return?
I think it's well past time to get our heads out of the dark places and become attuned to what's going on in our state capitols and in Washington, D.C. Perhaps one of the best things to have happened is that we are now in an Obamanation...causing at least some of us to wake up and be heard.
Today, I emailed both of my state senators and told them that if they vote to confirm Sotomayor, I and my family will vote against them in the next election. As long as we remain complacent, we will never be heard. Just Google "Congress", find your representatives and email them.
It's time to stop the tail from wagging the dog!
This whole bill was a carefully orchestrated medicine show. It's sole purpose was to allow Senators from conservative districts to go home during break and claim to be pro Bill of Rights. I don't think there was ever any real chance of it passing.
tom turner
US Veteran
Well . . . after last week's hot and contentious thread on "What I Like About The South," here's yet another reason to love the South . . .
EVERY Senator below the Mason Dixon line (except one each from Maryland and West Virginia) voted FOR Reciprocity!
Oops . . . I almost forgot . . . one other "Nay" vote came from my native state of Florida but, as we would say down there . . . "In Florida, the further South you go, the more NORTHERN it becomes." LOL
Still, only three voting "no" in the South is a mighty good! I wish the rest of the country had the same views on the right to bear arms in enough of a majority to get this bill passed.
EVERY Senator below the Mason Dixon line (except one each from Maryland and West Virginia) voted FOR Reciprocity!
Oops . . . I almost forgot . . . one other "Nay" vote came from my native state of Florida but, as we would say down there . . . "In Florida, the further South you go, the more NORTHERN it becomes." LOL
Still, only three voting "no" in the South is a mighty good! I wish the rest of the country had the same views on the right to bear arms in enough of a majority to get this bill passed.
Just for the record, the 2 Senators from Colorado (both Democrats) voted for the bill. I sent them both an emal thanking them for their support and the replies )albeit canned) were quite good.
I stand by my contention that being pro-gun is not a Republican position, but an American position.
I stand by my contention that being pro-gun is not a Republican position, but an American position.
The Rabbi
Member
Probably didnt have the votes. Remember that a lot of Dems that got elected were more pro-gun than the Republicans they replaced.
625 Shooter
Member
Unfortunately, I think you're correct.
According to this article, several senators voted "yes" after it was apparent the bill would fail.
Read the full article here: Dana Milbank - Washington Sketch: The Senators and the NRA - washingtonpost.com
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Only two Republicans went against the gun lobby, but that was enough to leave supporters just short of the 60 votes they needed. The slim margin was no accident: Other Democrats, such as Pennsylvania's Bob Casey and Colorado's Mark Udall and Michael Bennet, were said to have been willing to vote "no" if necessary. Twenty minutes after the voting began, Bennet and Udall left the cloakroom together and walked into the chamber. Bennet went to the well to consult with Schumer, who indicated that it was safe for Bennet -- a product of D.C.'s St. Albans School -- to vote with the NRA. Bennet looked to Udall, who gave an approving nod, and cast his "aye" vote.
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Disgusting, eh?
But Senator Schumer had it right:
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"We know the gun lobby is strong," Schumer said after the vote. "We know they will be back."
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and now Dana Millbank is the authority on what happens in the "chamber" and the "cloakroom"?
Don't get me wrong, I am not necessarily, disagreeing with you that it's certainly possible, after all we are talking politics, but to suggest that because someone prints a story, without any verifiable facts, just innuendo and cannot be verified, well, I for one would not make up my mind based up that kind of scenario.
Don't get me wrong, I am not necessarily, disagreeing with you that it's certainly possible, after all we are talking politics, but to suggest that because someone prints a story, without any verifiable facts, just innuendo and cannot be verified, well, I for one would not make up my mind based up that kind of scenario.
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BiggerHammer
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You should see the replys I get from Debby Stabonow of mich. and both of our sen. voted NO!!!!! on this and there for sinking it but then agine when fools vote in fools you get foolish Sen. votes. BiggerHammer
Paul Helmke: NRA Defeated In Key Gun Violence Prevention Vote: Elections Have Consequences
I get angry whenever I read an "article" like that. Crap journalism. I don't need to thank Dick Durbin for anything. Maybe he'd like to thank me for the fact that I'm apparently in the minority that didn't vote for him and his insider trading self, and thinks that he's completely wrong on everything when it comes to gun control. But then again, Chicago controls our state, so the rest of us in IL are screwed. Both our senators voted against it; Durbin and Burris.
"Gun violence prevention" and "Gun victims can be thankful"? Are you kidding me?
I'm sure all those people were shot by law abiding citizens with conceal and carry permits. *eye roll*
I get angry whenever I read an "article" like that. Crap journalism. I don't need to thank Dick Durbin for anything. Maybe he'd like to thank me for the fact that I'm apparently in the minority that didn't vote for him and his insider trading self, and thinks that he's completely wrong on everything when it comes to gun control. But then again, Chicago controls our state, so the rest of us in IL are screwed. Both our senators voted against it; Durbin and Burris.
"Gun violence prevention" and "Gun victims can be thankful"? Are you kidding me?
I'm sure all those people were shot by law abiding citizens with conceal and carry permits. *eye roll*
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He (Senator Merkley) sent me the same letter. What really p.o.'d me is the stupid S.O.B. is a senator from Oregon, and apparantly doesen't know that in Oregon there is no "gunshow loophole." (if there ever was one) No one can sell a gun at a gunshow in Oregon without doing a NICS check.
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