My Shield went boom.

[phatmax]

Bullet setback from rechambering the same round has been a concern with the 40s&w for some time. The slightest bit can raise pressures very quick on what is a high pressure cartridge already. I've seen pretty much the same damage on a S&W 99, Walther P99 and a couple of Glocks, all in 40s&w. Glad you're OK.

FIRST!!!: Glad you are OK.

SECOND: Those rounds ALL look setback. This is a major issue. A few thousandths increases pressure exponentially.

rounds that are rechambered often suffer this. While it might be easy to point fingers, it could be a factor of ammo out of spec from usage.

 

[offduty]

Nice to hear company's helping out to figure what went wrong. Glad all ended well.

 

[fiveonomo]

Glad you are ok.

 

[t bell]

Good to hear that Corbon wanted to right their wrong, even though they didn't actually make the ammo. If they bought existing ammo, it's still their responsibility, though.

 

[Skydivinglawyer]

Certainly glad you are OK.
I wasn't surprised to hear from Smith & Wesson that you encountered a problem related to the case and/or caseloads. I, too, have a picture of a shell rim pulled off the casing and an ejector torn out of the firearm. However, I was shooting reloads (Georgia Ammo...a place that has served me well) out of a Glock 22 with STOCK Glock barrel. One theory is that Glock's stock barrel chamber is slightly larger than specs. Run a bullet through that....it can expand, but rare, depending upon casing metal. Reload it and then the casing to chamber fit is so tight that the ejector pulls the rim off the casing while the casing stayed in the barrel. I understand fully that you were not shooting reloads and I also understand fully that you were shooting a Shield, which I expect has a barrel closer to specs than a Glock. Looks like the heavy charge, in your case, caused the damage. My pistol was not damaged. I put the ejector back in and ordered a Wolf barrel for practice. The reason I point this out to you is that your pictures look a LOT like mine. Again, I'm glad you were not hurt. I would need a concrete explanation before I would be comfortable carrying the same model for carry use and looks like you've got it. But, then again, I'm an old guy and have been spotted in restaurants with a Hiway Patrolman on my hip.

 

[JDW250]

Glad to hear you are ok and happy with the service of the parties involved. It's not everyday you hear stories about good service these days.

 

[WR Moore]

Glad to hear of a good resolution to the incident.

Since I used to burn quite a bit of Cor-Bon ammo (quit due to lack of local supply-performance of the JHP rounds was outstanding!) and Glaser prior to Cor-Bons purchase of the company I'll address some comments/concerns from earlier.

Case headstamp: Cor-Bon has used both their own head stamped brass and various other suppliers (Remington & Winchester) depending upon need/supply. Not an issue.

Primer sealant: Cor-Bon does seal primers, all the rounds I've ever used had the red sealant. Red does seem to be the worldwide prevelant color of sealant. Can't recall if Glaser used sealant or not.

Glaser ammunition has very light bullets for caliber and uses large charges of fast burning powder to produce extremely high velocities. I've always been wearing muffs so can't comment upon muzzle blast, but I expect it's ferocious. I also quit using their products due to inadequate penetration.

Having been involved in similar investigations as to cause of weapon destruction, liability with cartridge overpressue is that of the ammo manufacturer. And yes, labs can determine cause. An obstructed bore will have evidence of the collision of lodged projectile and the moving projectile.

 

[Sirad]

I've been following this thread with great interest. I am very glad you were not hurt (most importantly) and also glad to see that both S&W and CorBon treated you right. I will continue to be a S&W fan and will continue to patronize CorBon.

Good Stuff.

 

[DustyJacket]

So, you going to destroy the rest of that ammo? I would. Or does Corbon want it?

I am glad the Shield held together long enough to protect your hand.

And it sounds like you hit the lottery winner with both companies making it possible to get a new gun. I can envision where both companies could have denied any responsibility since it was a third company that messed up.

 

[JSR III]

Glad to see that it all worked out. A credit to S&W for making a fine firearm that didn't cost you your hand. Secondly, hats off to S&W customer service for offering to help you get back shooting again and to the ammo company for stepping up and paying the difference.

You approached this issue properly without assessing blame and the companies steped up and made it right.

I looked at a 9mm shield yesterday at a show for $539. How does that figure compare with others???

 

[Nevadadvx]

Glad to see that it all worked out. A credit to S&W for making a fine firearm that didn't cost you your hand. Secondly, hats off to S&W customer service for offering to help you get back shooting again and to the ammo company for stepping up and paying the difference.

You approached this issue properly without assessing blame and the companies steped up and made it right.

I looked at a 9mm shield yesterday at a show for $539. How does that figure compare with others???

I have one coming from Kittery for $429.99 +$35 to overnight ship. They did have as many as 127, but were down to 37 when I bought mine two days ago. Now they show only 1....

Kittery Trading Post

 

[scooter123]

I'm glad do see that there has been a satisfactory resolution of this issue. I'm also not surprised at how it's been implemented. Because I've always felt that in this case the root cause was one round of ammunition that was overcharged. Fortunately in this case the maker of that ammunition was a small family owned operation who still see each and every customer as an individual instead of a face in a large crowd. Kudo's to Corbin for stepping up and doing what was right, even when they didn't own Glaser when this defect was produced.

 

[WallyJJ]

So, you going to destroy the rest of that ammo? I would. Or does Corbon want it?

I only have the other 5 rounds left. A friend at work that does reloading will dismantle them.

 

[WallyJJ]

I looked at a 9mm shield yesterday at a show for $539. How does that figure compare with others???

My original .40 and my wife's 9 were bought from the same LGS for $469 plus tax. I see people post that they can get them closer to $400 but every other one I have seen in person has been over $500.

Hopefully you have some reasonably priced LGS's in your area that you can either put money down at to get on a list. What also works is a lot of LGS have facebook pages and will post new things they get at night. Be there when they open the next morning.

 

[Nakanokalronin]

I'm not shocked that a .40 and poly gun mixture blew up. It's been happening for a long time now and yes, I know other calibers do it to but the .40 in many brands of poly handguns has them all beat.

 

[JFR]

Worthy of a bump due to recent Shield / Ammo activity.

 

[BigCityChief]

Happy to hear that your issues were finally resolved - says good things about both S&W and Corbon.


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