My son made a Tom Three Person for my Colt 38 Super!

[crazyphil]

Yes, but did Myres officially call it a Threepersons? He was quite selective about which ones were called Threepersons-Style Holsters though they included two shoulder holsters.

It might have been a special order, or maybe turnerriver might
have it in one of his catalogs. Sure looks like a Threepersons
to me.

 

[jeeps]

El Paso Three Person knock off

Nice working holster ,it is lined and made pretty well. The Colt is a Frontier Sixshooter with blackpowder Frame made 1994 4-3/4", pocket knive Kleen Kutter muskrat with armadillo bone handle. Watch 1889 Elgin and ammo 205grn.44-40.

 

[jeeps]

Good picture of raw hide lacing on H.Heiser.

 

[crazyphil]

Welcome to the forum!! You will probably love it here. Nice work that you have shown so far, although I'm far from being an authority on holsters, like Red Nichols, and some of the other guys like Crazyphil and Turnerriver. These guys know a lot about holsters and also have collected many thousands of dollars worth of the finest holsters.

One thing that I was curious about on the Tom Threepersons holster that you made for your dad.., does it have a welt? Red says (my interpretation) that the reason that the welt is important is to allow the holster to jell retain the gun. See the photo in post 9 above. Unfortunately, this requires,sewing or lacing through multiple layers of leather.

Just a thought..... Anyway, welcome, and keep sharing your work with us!!

Best Regards, Les

Thank you Les, to mention me in the same sentence as Red
Nichols and turnerriver is indeed a compliment. But those
2 guys are like PhDs in holsterology. I, on the other hand,
am but a student. And a kindergartner at that.

 

[wheelgun610]

Yes, but did Myres officially call it a Threepersons?

The Myres catalog I have does indeed call the holster like Phil's a Threepersons and goes on to say they were only made for "SW & Colt revolvers". The only date reference for this particular catalog is a facsimile of a "thank you note" from Homer Garrison Jr. (Director Texas Dept. of Public Safety) which must've been issued from his (Garrison's) office on Feb. 9, 1944.

As a side note, the only holsters with reference to the Threepersons name are for revolvers. None of the holsters listed as being for automatics have any mention of Threepersons in their descriptions.

Mark

 

[bruce5781]

With apologies to jeeps & lizardsausage, I had to chime in since two of my favorite subjects are good leather & Colt 38 autos.
Mine is actually a Super 38 vs. 38 Super, go figure. As Les mentioned, they were favored by the Rangers. Mine came by way of a retired DPS agent who claimed to have been taught to shoot an auto by the Lone Wolf. Sadly, the humidity along the border took its toll on mine.
But I digress, what I wanted to show was the EP holster I sometimes use it with. I was wondering if this was what Red was describing. Along with the trigger guard being encircled with leather, it also has an extra piece inside to hold everything tight.

When not in the El Paso, I carry it in the Eubanks model 820 that it came to me in.

Regards,
Bruce

 

[les.b]

Bruce:

I learn (or in this case notice) something every day... My colt Commander does say "Colt Super 38 Auto" on the slide, barrel, and magazine. The ammo box says ".38 Super +P", so I was incorrectly calling it a 38 Super, when I guess the correct terminology would be Super .38.

Those are both beautiful holsters, and inspire me to keep my eyes open.

Best Regards, Les

 

[bruce5781]

Bruce:

I learn (or in this case notice) something every day... My colt Commander does say "Colt Super 38 Auto" on the slide, barrel, and magazine. The ammo box says ".38 Super +P", so I was incorrectly calling it a 38 Super, when I guess the correct terminology would be Super .38.

Those are both beautiful holsters, and inspire me to keep my eyes open.

Best Regards, Les

Best Regards, Les

I suspect both are correct. Yours must be an older one. Mine is a Lightweight Commander from 1951. Not sure when they changed the nomenclature.

Regards,
Bruce

 

[rednichols]

But I digress, what I wanted to show was the EP holster I sometimes use it with. I was wondering if this was what Red was describing. Along with the trigger guard being encircled with leather, it also has an extra piece inside to hold everything tight.

Regards,
Bruce

Yes this is the style that Myres sold as a Threepersons holster for the autos. That piece inside is not for tightness: look again, it holds the mag button off the inside of the holster. In this case it was considered very important because of the coverage created by it being a crossdraw, yet turnerriver has one of the more conventional right side carry with butt forward that includes it, too.

The style is normally found WITHOUT the piece so we can be assured it was not essential to its 'threepersons' function.

I use the identical piece, caught in the holster seam exactly as Myres did, for an entirely different reason and without knowing (then) that Myres had done it: I use it to force the grip outwards from the body. The guard being so thin, and the slide so thick, the natural tendency is for the holster to turn the grip inwards.

How about a view of the back of the holster?

 

[bruce5781]

Here you go, Red.

Regards,
Bruce

 

[Lizardsausage]

Thanks for the pictures

Hey Bruce thanks for the pictures. . .you never see pictures of the backs or inside of holsters in books or Internet. Those to pictures are a wealth of knowledge. Attached is a picture of a 6in peacemaker that I am working on. I am going to take the advice of the previous posts and lace it with rawhide, as soon as I can locate some.

 

[bruce5781]

Hey Bruce thanks for the pictures. . .you never see pictures of the backs or inside of holsters in books or Internet. Those to pictures are a wealth of knowledge. Attached is a picture of a 6in peacemaker that I am working on. I am going to take the advice of the previous posts and lace it with rawhide, as soon as I can locate some.

You are off to a great start. Anything I can do to help, just hollar. There is a wealth of holsters in this group and I suspect most would be willing to provide any photos or dimensions you ever need.

Regards,
Bruce

 

[les.b]

That is going to be one really nice holster!! it would be really nice to show us pictures of how it progresses from here on. You would probably get expert advice from our distinguished roster of holster experts as well. I'm sure not an expert, but I can sure tell when I see something beautiful, and that design that you have there is beautiful.

Best Regards, Les

 

[Cyrano]

I suspect both are correct. Yours must be an older one. Mine is a Lightweight Commander from 1951. Not sure when they changed the nomenclature.

Regards,
Bruce

I think they all are marked Super 38. Mine is a second year of production and is so marked.

 

[bruce5781]

Regards,
Bruce

 

[Lizardsausage]

Carving holsters

Still working on the peacemaker Texas jockstrap. I finished tooling and just did my antique application. Next neatsfoot oil, wax, sewing and final fitting. I am very happy with results this is my second one of this exact design and carving, except this one looks 10 percent better for some reason. I am going to attribute that to a bit more experience.

 

[Lizardsausage]

Finished peacemaker

I tried rawhide lacing. It broke halfway through, had to unlace and start over. It was worth the hassle. I seamed a bit bright in color , so I dyed it. . .not bad thanks for the advice. I looked at a lot of h.heisers online I am going to try to mimic his rawhide on my next one.

 

[crazyphil]

Here, on the left below, is an example of Heiser lacing.
On the right, nobody does it better than Idaho Leather.