Navy Goes Robotic

[THE PILGRIM]

Ready or not, here comes unmanned ships!
We have already successfully used airborne drones for surveillance and delivering weapons, so I hope the Robotic Ships are just as successful.

World’s Largest Anti-Submarine Robot Ship Joins US Navy | The Diplomat

 

[the ringo kid]

i hope so? Ive not much faith in unmanned anything because, fairly recently, an unmanned Uber? car struck and killed a woman somewhere in this Country, California I think??

 

[Lee in Quartzsite]

Just wait...some 12 year old kid will figure out a way to hack into its systems and steal it. At least there won't be any hanky-panky going on with sailors getting pregnant!

 

[zzzippper]

Manpower is one of, if not the, biggest cost for the military. The research into drones of all kinds and artificial intelligence is exploding including somethings I probably can't talk about.

It is said that our last fighter pilot has already been born. The only thing holding back the use of more drones piloted by enlisted men is the military wanting to protect their officer class.

Just imagine how ships like these would have affected the Battle of the Atlantic.

 

[soFlaNative]

40 meters, 140 tons, 27 kt. top end and tracks from one klick.
Not that familiar with ASW tech but color me unimpressed.

 

[Kurusu]

imagine how ships like these would have affected the Battle of the Atlantic.

The crew from HMS Hood would have appreciate it.

 

[LVSteve]

40 meters, 140 tons, 27 kt. top end and tracks from one klick.
Not that familiar with ASW tech but color me unimpressed.

Yeah, I didn't get that line either.

The ACTUV allegedly has already successfully tracked a submarine from one kilometer (0.62 miles) away.

No mention of a towed array. Maybe the ship is too small to take a tail.

So, you're on a sub and realize you are being tracked by this thing. Just shove a tin fish where the sun doesn't shine and move on. Problem solved.

 

[the ringo kid]

The crew from HMS Hood would have appreciate it.

Good to see they are also remembered. I wrote to and received a reply from one of the three survivors--Mr. Ted Briggs. He passed into the Lord's arms some years ago. :-( I also know and corresponded with the 4th Gunnery Officer on the Bismarck as well. He was: Baron Burkhard Freiferr von Mullenheim-Rechburg. The Baron REFUSED to ever give the hitler salute-and was oft in trouble with his superiors for it-same with many Kriegsmarine officers and some Army officers. The Baron was a fine gentleman and was great to be able to rub elbows with on the few occasions I was able to, before he passed away.

 

[zzzippper]

The crew from HMS Hood would have appreciate it.

I don't understand your reference. Hood was sunk by gunfire and other than the threat of submarines U-boats did not play a role in that action.

ASW is a team sport. ASW helos and long range patrol craft do the biggest part of tracking threats. This would probably be called in for the kill.

 

[Kurusu]

I don't understand your reference. Hood was sunk by gunfire and other than the threat of submarines U-boats did not play a role in that action.

ASW is a team sport. ASW helos and long range patrol craft do the biggest part of tracking threats. This would probably be called in for the kill.

If Hood was an unmanned vessel...

Or the Bismark for that matter.

 

[the ringo kid]

I don't understand your reference. Hood was sunk by gunfire and other than the threat of submarines U-boats did not play a role in that action.

ASW is a team sport. ASW helos and long range patrol craft do the biggest part of tracking threats. This would probably be called in for the kill.

You have to understand the mind of a student of history to understand. Number of lives needlessly lost on both sides. As well as in his previous post about Flanders-though he did not mention it by name.

There were only 3 survivors from the HMS Hood-Ted Briggs was one of them, and only then-it was because of a huge air bubble from some kind of an explosion, that pushed them to the surface. The Bismarck had fewer than I think 200? survive-and that was because the RN couldn't stand by and allow their rescue ships become targets for U boats-while rescuing Bismarck crewmen. It was-save some men vs losing a few valuable ships of war they badly needed.

 

[bigwheelzip]

The latest generation of anti-ship missiles makes duty on surface ships seem overly perilous.

 

[LVSteve]

The Bismarck had fewer than I think 200? survive-and that was because the RN couldn't stand by and allow their rescue ships become targets for U boats-while rescuing Bismarck crewmen. It was-save some men vs losing a few valuable ships of war they badly needed.

The U-boat report theory on abandoning the Bismarck's survivors has come into question many times. Personally I suspect the crew of the Dorsetshire spotted floating wreckage from the battle and that it was expedient that it was called a U-boat. Recall that the Hood was a much revered symbol of the Royal Navy and that Britain and its Empire were alone against the Axis at the time except for the Lend-lease arrangements with the US. NOTHING could be allowed to interfere with the convoys headed for Britain. The manner of the Bismarck's destruction was as much a message to the Kreigsmarine as it was an act of flat out revenge. The British can be a seriously hard and ruthless bunch when put under pressure, and I should know.

 

[the ringo kid]

The U-boat report theory on abandoning the Bismarck's survivors has come into question many times. Personally I suspect the crew of the Dorsetshire spotted floating wreckage from the battle and that it was expedient that it was called a U-boat. Recall that the Hood was a much revered symbol of the Royal Navy and that Britain and its Empire were alone against the Axis at the time except for the Lend-lease arrangements with the US. NOTHING could be allowed to interfere with the convoys headed for Britain. The manner of the Bismarck's destruction was as much a message to the Kreigsmarine as it was an act of flat out revenge. The British can be a seriously hard and ruthless bunch when put under pressure, and I should know.

You might be correct on some-you are on some as well. Ive never heard of what you mentioned before (1st part of post) but I can always ask a researcher/friend of mine-who has contributed to many books on this and the subject of the Luftwaffe. erich should know for sure. Also, speaking of-he is currently doing loads of research on all things STuG units on the Western Front-as well as Kriegsmarine U Jagers. Should be some interesting books in the making.

 

[Kurusu]

You might be correct on some-you are on some as well. Ive never heard of what you mentioned before (1st part of post) but I can always ask a researcher/friend of mine-who has contributed to many books on this and the subject of the Luftwaffe. erich should know for sure. Also, speaking of-he is currently doing loads of research on all things STuG units on the Western Front-as well as Kriegsmarine U Jagers. Should be some interesting books in the making.

Thread drif here, sorry.

Speaking of STuG. This one served the Finns in their sideshow wars.

That Swastika is not the NAZI symbol. Finns used it long before them.

 

[the ringo kid]

The Finns got a lot of stuff from both sides. Check out some Finnish produced war movies-they use the real deal. Tali Inhaltala (SP? for one.

 

[Kurusu]

The Finns got a lot of stuff from both sides. Check out some Finnish produced war movies-they use the real deal. Tali ihantala

Fixed it for you.

Just as a curiosity. That STug III in the picture was in that battle.

 

[Izzydog]

No risk of "Liberty Incidents" on that command. As with aviation, most accidents are the result of human error, so take the human out of the equation. With fighter aircraft the pilot is the the most fragile part, so drone, or future AI, aircraft will be capable of maneuvers that would kill a human. Likewise, AI submarines could operate at any depth, and without a crew, stay at sea indefinitely.