I have a Brother B&W laser printer..2 actually. The first one was a 100 dollar one Black Friday 6 years ago. Running out of ink?...bought another same model Black Friday 80 dollars...friend gave me a cartridge about 5 days later. Installed in the old one...back to square one but prints just slightly lighter. Probably a software fix but it works ok. Kept the new one JIC. I print invoices targets shipping labels etc. No ink drying out. I don't need to print colors.
Need to replace printer.
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The reason inkjet printers are so cheap is that their manufacturers aren't in business to sell printers. They're in business to sell ink.
We have an Epson XP7100. It gets a workout.
The hard part is keeping JR out of the paper.
The hard part is keeping JR out of the paper.
I use a Brother MFC-J895DW, I think it has been replaced with a later model. Works like a champ, has print copy scan and fax. Ink not cheap but seems to last a decent amount of time and so easy to change even my wife can do it!
I had a couple of HPs and they were very expensive to keep running, the Epson that I had didn't work worth a d+++ and changing cartridges was a major pain.
I had a couple of HPs and they were very expensive to keep running, the Epson that I had didn't work worth a d+++ and changing cartridges was a major pain.
On the subject of printers...Over the years a couple of HP ink jet printers have come and gone leaving behind some ink cartridges that don't work in anything I have.
I have #56 black, #57 tri-color and a #27 black, all new in the package. $5 for the postage and they are yours.
I have #56 black, #57 tri-color and a #27 black, all new in the package. $5 for the postage and they are yours.
DWalt
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As I mentioned, I like my B&W Brother laser printer. It doesn't care whether you use a Brother toner cartridge or something bought cheap off eBay. I bought one of those when the toner cartridge it came with went empty, and it worked fine, and is still going strong. About a third of the price of a factory Brother replacement toner cartridge.
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Thanks for all trying to help
I am still running Windows Vista and that looks to be a problem.
I have resisted upgrading to later version of Windows.
I have many files using Works and Word.
I have been told that Later versions of Windows will not run/support Works or Word.
Bekeart
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I am still running Windows Vista and that looks to be a problem.
I have resisted upgrading to later version of Windows.
I have many files using Works and Word.
I have been told that Later versions of Windows will not run/support Works or Word.
Bekeart
Luddite in residence
You can still use "Word" but you have to buy/subscribe to it. Joe
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I'm still using Windows 7 and Word 2000. Also, there are workarounds if the current Windows doesn't want to run your software.
venomballistics
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VISTA?!?!
I'd have stood my ground back at XP.
Microsoft seemed to run a cycle of "pooch ... apology".
where win 95 sucked, win 98 was the apology and it worked.
Then millennium sucked, for which XP was its apology.
then Vista came out ....
THE PILGRIM
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Say you don't use the 'office' stuff that much but sometime need it?
You may be a candidate for a Freeware third party app.
Google it, pick yo poison!
I'm using OPEN OFFICE 4.1.14.
You may be a candidate for a Freeware third party app.
Google it, pick yo poison!
I'm using OPEN OFFICE 4.1.14.
Not quite true. While Microsoft is pushing subscription-based software, you can still buy a stand alone Office version containing word. They may you work at it, with all sorts of hurdles pushing you toward 365.
OLDSTER
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We copy, print, and fax dozens of documents every week. We've owned HP, Brothers, and Canon. But we've had the best performance and reliability with our Epson Eco Tank 2800.
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DWalt
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I am still using Microsoft Office 2000 which I got free back then. At that time I think I was using Windows 98. Am still using it on Windows 10 and no problems. Office 2000 still does everything I need done. And there are indeed several free clones of MS Office that can be downloaded which are absolutely free and are compatible with all old Word and Excel files. At present, MS offers Office only as a subscription service so they can continue to gouge their customers at every turn. I refuse to play their game and will keep and use my old Office 2000 version. Same for Photoshop, am still using version 7. It is plenty good enough for my purposes.
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venomballistics
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If it's basic software that's anyone's hangup. there's OpenOffice and Googles apps to lean upon if the MS subscription wankery is a deal breaker.
Apache OpenOffice - Official Site - The Free and Open Productivity Suite
Apache OpenOffice - Official Site - The Free and Open Productivity Suite
I've been using an HP Laserjet 1320n for 20 years. Toner cartridges are still available.
They have been out of production for a long time but can still be found:
[ame]https://www.amazon.com/HP-LaserJet-1320n-100Base-TX-Refurbished/dp/B07H6C623R/ref=sr_1_3?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.yvhahpxz1T8hR3nXJo97UeSzgpjJ_1Cl4ro4s7MP5Tjx7KieMCQY5yBRGiN193boOtMTYNHrvFG3YBwu3aieOD0M4YGRhZlWaViHApoI7TizWpkMOgWSuuUJfeWTd15NNVW-EYXrgZoAgVUMPV7IjS1Byc1OAvQk0pRQFGzEwCY3tEDna18LpIoPspSOAK9pM1UfJm_H8kArXaYz2QvGlrmdag67b1xiRXrZZaQoA34.82IYwCz5B5bxXsYpM7nUGiYj2KyAnGMR3LRVaUdfSIk&dib_tag=se&keywords=hp+laserjet+1320n&qid=1710093515&sr=8-3[/ame]
Best part - it is a networked postscript printer. No drivers are needed, it will work with the generic postcript printer driver built into the OS. It still works perfectly with both my macOS and Linux systems.
They have been out of production for a long time but can still be found:
[ame]https://www.amazon.com/HP-LaserJet-1320n-100Base-TX-Refurbished/dp/B07H6C623R/ref=sr_1_3?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.yvhahpxz1T8hR3nXJo97UeSzgpjJ_1Cl4ro4s7MP5Tjx7KieMCQY5yBRGiN193boOtMTYNHrvFG3YBwu3aieOD0M4YGRhZlWaViHApoI7TizWpkMOgWSuuUJfeWTd15NNVW-EYXrgZoAgVUMPV7IjS1Byc1OAvQk0pRQFGzEwCY3tEDna18LpIoPspSOAK9pM1UfJm_H8kArXaYz2QvGlrmdag67b1xiRXrZZaQoA34.82IYwCz5B5bxXsYpM7nUGiYj2KyAnGMR3LRVaUdfSIk&dib_tag=se&keywords=hp+laserjet+1320n&qid=1710093515&sr=8-3[/ame]
Best part - it is a networked postscript printer. No drivers are needed, it will work with the generic postcript printer driver built into the OS. It still works perfectly with both my macOS and Linux systems.
Aside from Open Offfice, another alternative to Microgouge Office is Libre Office which is what I have for the few times I need to read or create a Word document. I run mostly Mac and of course they have their equivalent to the MS suite but Libre Office (and Open Office?) run on Mac or Windows.
And for those needing a professional equivalent to Photoshop, Affinity Photo is a cheaper, non-subscription alternative. They have equivalents for the other Adobe suites as well.
And for Mac users like jeffrefrig, I've been using Lemke Software's Graphic Converter for 25 years. About $60 and worth every penny IMHO. Originally, as the name suggests, it was for converting to and from the myriad file formats, but now it does most of the usual adjustments. I've used it to correct/adjust photos for some folks on the Forum who don't have the necessary software.
venomballistics
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Google workspace is web based.
If you can get your browser to it, you can use it.
for that, it's probably the most universal cross platform solution you'll find.
I'm partial to having my software on my local machine where it can be used offline. I'm sure this describes the preference of many. but push come to shove, a web app will get er done.
I used to be heavy on alternative operating systems ... Debian especially. it's worth some research if for no other reason than to serve as a roadmap to open source software.
GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program) used to have some serious photo editing horsepower. It's probably still around and probably multi platform.
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When I MUST have hard copy I just put it on a thumb drive and get my brother to print it for me. Or the kindly widow two doors up the street (good friends with my wife and a helluva a lot smarter then either of us.)
That's after whatever printer I had stopped working several years back.
My motto these days: Less is more in almost all things. Proud of my geezer status and working hard to discard or give away the junk we have accumulated over the years.
Buy another printer? Not even with YOUR money!
When I MUST have hard copy I just put it on a thumb drive and get my brother to print it for me. Or the kindly widow two doors up the street (good friends with my wife and a helluva a lot smarter then either of us.)
That's after whatever printer I had stopped working several years back.
My motto these days: Less is more in almost all things. Proud of my geezer status and working hard to discard or give away the junk we have accumulated over the years.
Buy another printer? Not even with YOUR money!
Check out the Epson EcoTank printers. I've had great luck with ours for the two + years we've had it. Ink costs a fraction of what HP was costing me.
DWalt
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I personally prefer having application software installed on my computer, instead of being online. Mainly because that is the way I have done it since Windows 95. My attitude is that old editions of software are fine with me so long as they do whatever I need done. And my needs are fairly basic. Regarding something like my elderly Photoshop 7, it already contains a great many features that I do not need and have no idea how to use, so why should I buy a newer version that contains even more? Were I a professional photographer, I might need to have the latest and greatest photo software available, but I have no aspirations of becoming one of those. In gun terms, it is sort of like asking what modern features does a century-old M1911 lack that you really can't do without? I can't think of any.
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If you really just need black, you should definitely consider a laser. I have a Xerox all in one that I bought cheap on close out several years ago. Like you, I'm a low volume printer, and I'm still on the original "starter" cartridge. It is getting close to the end, though. I have to take it out and shake it every now and then to get good prints. The cartridges for this one are fairly inexpensive (less than $50), and print 3000 pages. The starter cartridge is supposed to be good for 1500 pages, and it has lasted me years. It also works as a scanner and copier.
Brother and Canon seem to make reliable inexpensive laser printers that are just over $100.
Brother and Canon seem to make reliable inexpensive laser printers that are just over $100.
DWalt
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I bought my Brother laser printer at WM on sale for $70 about a year ago. But the rest of the story is that neither of the nearby local stores had one in stock. So I ordered it off the WM website. To my surprise it unexpectedly arrived at my house the following morning. No delivery charge. One of those "How did they do that?" events.
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