New 620's are round butt frames ???

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Just picked up a new model 620 at my dealer that has been eyeing me for about 2 months. BTW, they had 3 in stock and I checked all 3 with feeler gages. Cylinder gap on one was 0.007 inch loose, one was 0.006 inch medium, and mine was a slightly snug 0.005 inch. Those who think that S&W's current quality is poor should re-think that attitude.

First, I had forgotten how much snap the 357 Magnum has, last time I shot one was over 30 years ago. For those who don't already know, the factory Hogue grips are TOO DAMN SMALL. While they are fine for 38 spl. and 38 +P they will punish anyone using a 357 Magnum round.

So, I am looking for a recomendation for some nice FAT grips to mount on it. However, and this is what I was unaware of, the new model 620's are built using a ROUND BUTT FRAME. Yeah, my 620 is a 4 inch round butt 357. The mount is also new to me, being a single screw that threads into a saddle clip mounted to the pins for locating the grip in the frame. It's somewhat similar to the heel mount that Dan Wesson used on his revolvers. However, it's a standard round butt frame and I could attach side screw grips by removing that saddle clip.

So, I am soliciting suggestions for a new grip or grip set. Just for reference, I find the Rosewood grips on my Sig Sauer P229 Elite Stainless to be nearly perfect. They felt HUGE when I got the gun but I now know better, fat grips not only work well for me, they make me a better shooter because they won't permit me to use too much finger on the trigger.

As for a range report, it's a bit too early for a full evaluation. Sighting was low out of the box but 1 full turn on the rear sight brought it to perfection. The trigger is smooth but does require a higher starting effort to initiate than my model 67, probably in the range of 11 to 12 lbs. for the first 1/16 inch, after that it's probably about 9 lbs. and not the least bit stagey. That's probably a result of it being a 7 shooter instead of 6, the total pull length is a bit shorter than my 67. Currently I have no plans on changing it, learning how to shoot it well will just make my finger stronger and me a better shooter. BTW, I did a bit of bench shooting in signle action while dialing in the sights, like my model 67 it's absolutely perfect. My only real issue is the factory grips are just too small for 357 Magnum loads, after 21 rounds of that I'd had enough.

PS, sorry guys, no pictures. One of these days I'll get around to getting an image host but right now my budget is shot.
 
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Just picked up a new model 620 at my dealer that has been eyeing me for about 2 months. BTW, they had 3 in stock and I checked all 3 with feeler gages. Cylinder gap on one was 0.007 inch loose, one was 0.006 inch medium, and mine was a slightly snug 0.005 inch. Those who think that S&W's current quality is poor should re-think that attitude.

First, I had forgotten how much snap the 357 Magnum has, last time I shot one was over 30 years ago. For those who don't already know, the factory Hogue grips are TOO DAMN SMALL. While they are fine for 38 spl. and 38 +P they will punish anyone using a 357 Magnum round.

So, I am looking for a recomendation for some nice FAT grips to mount on it. However, and this is what I was unaware of, the new model 620's are built using a ROUND BUTT FRAME. Yeah, my 620 is a 4 inch round butt 357. The mount is also new to me, being a single screw that threads into a saddle clip mounted to the pins for locating the grip in the frame. It's somewhat similar to the heel mount that Dan Wesson used on his revolvers. However, it's a standard round butt frame and I could attach side screw grips by removing that saddle clip.

So, I am soliciting suggestions for a new grip or grip set. Just for reference, I find the Rosewood grips on my Sig Sauer P229 Elite Stainless to be nearly perfect. They felt HUGE when I got the gun but I now know better, fat grips not only work well for me, they make me a better shooter because they won't permit me to use too much finger on the trigger.

As for a range report, it's a bit too early for a full evaluation. Sighting was low out of the box but 1 full turn on the rear sight brought it to perfection. The trigger is smooth but does require a higher starting effort to initiate than my model 67, probably in the range of 11 to 12 lbs. for the first 1/16 inch, after that it's probably about 9 lbs. and not the least bit stagey. That's probably a result of it being a 7 shooter instead of 6, the total pull length is a bit shorter than my 67. Currently I have no plans on changing it, learning how to shoot it well will just make my finger stronger and me a better shooter. BTW, I did a bit of bench shooting in signle action while dialing in the sights, like my model 67 it's absolutely perfect. My only real issue is the factory grips are just too small for 357 Magnum loads, after 21 rounds of that I'd had enough.

PS, sorry guys, no pictures. One of these days I'll get around to getting an image host but right now my budget is shot.
 
Check Hogue's website for grips. They make wood grips identical in profile(but they are thicker) to the rubber on your gun now. Also make several other styles which may interest you. You can also do a general search for handgun grips and then check the various websites. All kinds of great choices out there.
 
I just recently acquired the similar 520 ("L" frame, titanium cylinder, Black instead of stainless except for the cylinder, and adjustable sights). It too has a round butt grip. Standard "L" frame round butt grips will fit.

I'm not going to be of much help to you regarding grips as mine is now wearing Packmayr Decelerator Grips - the REALLY comfortable grips.

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Dale53
 
The gun on the left is a 620 with Jerry Miculek grips (made by Hogue) The gun in the middle is a 520 with Altamont grips. Both are round but L frames and can take either grip. About a 1000 rounds and some Wolf springs and you'll like that 620 a lot more.
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Dale53- Nice 520. I should have bought one when I had the chance.
 
gib;
I know where one is (like new in the box). The owner wants $750. It is not unfired but it IS nice.

Mine sure shoots well.

Dale53
 
I bought a 620 recently and although it has the same grips as all the L and N frame revolvers, I find it punishing to shoot with full house loads. My 6" 686 firing the same loads is fine. It's amazing what that extra weight out on the muzzle will do for you.
Anyhow, I have found that the Hogue grips used on the models 460 and 500 will also fit both L and N frames, according to S&W customer service. Those are the ones I plan to get.
 
The L-frame 620, which replaced the K-frame 66 a few years ago, has always been a RB. Additionally, K&L frames take the same grip.

Below, top down, is a 6" 66, 5" h-l 686+, and a 4" 617. All are K/L frame RB grips by Ahrends - in cocobolo. The upper two are square conversions with finger grooves and the bottom is his newer 'Retro Target' style. All feel great with my usual loads. I suspect hot .357 Magnums would be a bit less comfortable in the .357 Magnum upper two.

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There is a better man-made grip choice, if you want a bit larger grip - with a recoil absorbing padded backstrap. That is the .460/.500 Magnum S&W/Hogue monogrip available via S&W Accessories for ~$37. The X-frame grips are universal - and fit my N-frame 6" 629 as well as my L-frame 296 below:

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Congratulations on buying a fine revolver. Keep us apprised of your experiences with it.

Stainz

PS BTW - the limit S&W puts on b/c gap range is .004-.010".
 
Thanks for all who posted about the X frame grips fitting the 620. I'll probably be ordering a set within the week. The good news is that I'm sure my local dealer will let me borrow a set from their rental X frame to tryout. It's one thing I hate about trying to buy something like grips over the net, no dimensions to go on and it's hard to get any idea of how they will fit me from the descriptions.

I've also been looking at Nill's website and might look into a set of the Large replacement grips. However, they cost enough that I'll wait until I try the X frame grips before making that choice.

Right now I'm starting to think I must be turning into a real wimp. About 30 years ago I used to load up a rental model 19 with 357 Magnums occasionally and don't remember it hurting at all. Yesterday, 3 cylinders was all it took to make me call it quits for the day because it started to hurt with these small grips. I've gained a lot of respect for those who shoot the 44 Mag and larger, and lost any temptation for a model 29.
 
I use X-Frame grips on the 5" Model 629 Classic that's my deer-hunting revolver. I had Ahrends on it before and was questioning my ability to deal with recoil to the point that I was considering selling it.

The Ahrends are beautiful grips, and I'd have no problem running them on a gun that didn't kick very hard. But on a 5" 44 Magnum they're like shooting a lighweight 30/06 with a steel buttplate. The X-Frame grips are like putting a recoil pad on it.


Okie John
 
I own a 686-6 (round butt, of course) and I've recently equipped it with a set of Nill's round-square "coke" conversion grips. They're actually a tad smaller than the Hogue rubbers that the gun came equipped with, but ergonomically, they're infinitely superior to the Hogues. I barely feel the recoil when shooting with these grips. Only problem is price. At somewhat north of $200 they're damn near astronomical as far as grips go, but they're sure comfortable -- and very pretty, too.
 
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