new gun!

[sigmaster86]

hey guys i just got a LNIB 642ct for a really good price ($400). gun is in excellent conditoin and all. i had only 1 question... what in the heck is the internal lock for? ive never owned a revolver with this lock. so i dont know the purpose of it and was hoping maybe you guys can help. thanks hope 2 get pics up soon

 

[sigmaster86]

hey guys i just got a LNIB 642ct for a really good price ($400). gun is in excellent conditoin and all. i had only 1 question... what in the heck is the internal lock for? ive never owned a revolver with this lock. so i dont know the purpose of it and was hoping maybe you guys can help. thanks hope 2 get pics up soon

 

[Duke426]

Oh boy, here we go...

 

[sigmaster86]

anybody? and duke why do you say it like that lol? is it that serious?

 

[boneman]

That's opening a whole can of worms!! By the way I love my 642 and after put Crimson Trace Laser grips on it I love it a whole lot more. By the way it's a safety system invented by S&W so they may sell guns in commiestates. Good luck with your new purchase. Thanks Larry

 

[Gun 4 Fun]

He says it like that, because anybody who is a S&W purist hates that stupid lock!

They serve no real use, other than to help Smith sell to a state that requires them.

Because of one states freakin looser liberals, all states must suffer.

Then there's the issue of the lock, locking on it's own while the gun is being fired.

Did I get enough emphasis faces in there guys?

 

[hikerbum]

Hide the key someplace, and then the lock serves no purpose. Just ignore it like we should all ignore this topic.

 

[HOUSTON RICK]

Sig, as you have seen, the lock is mostly despised here as a pointless, possibile source of malfunction on an otherwise tried and true, reliable firearm. Many here, myself included, will not buy a gun with that lock and search out pre-lock or lockless models. On catalogs that sell S&W (ie CDNN) they clearly point out if the particular model has an internal lock because it is a deal buster for many of us.

 

[Bullet Bob]

I think it's because S&W's revolver customer base is aging, so the lock serves two purposes:

1. It keeps many people here agitated, elevating their blood pressure - which is the only excercise many of us get. That helps us live longer, and we can buy more products.

2. Have you ever known some old guy where the relatives had disconnected his stove so he couldn't turn it on by mistake and burn the house down? Same principle; lock grandpa's guns, and hide the key. That keeps him from accidently shooting at strange noises in the night, like grandma snoring.

 

[sigmaster86]

thnx guys. bullet bob... #2 is nice.. hahah


2 more questions.

1. what state made the rest of us suffer?

2. 1-10.. how many times would the revolvers IL system "lock up" on me while shooting? is this rare or is it consistent with all IL revolvers?

thnx sigmaster

 

[drjim]

IIRC, it was the Great People's Republik of Kalifornia that made such internal nonsense necessary on firearms.
-Jim

 

[sigmaster86]

..... :shaking head in complete and utter sorrow:....

what is the world comming to...?


well. anybody wanna answer my second question for me?

thnx sigmaster

 

[617fan]

Congrats on your purchase. Shake your head in sorrow over where the worlds headed; but enjoy your new S&W! I am no fan of the lock, I don't like the idea, but I haven't had any lock issues shooting several thousands rounds through mine. I was clueless about lock problems when I bought my first one, but it shot so well I bought two more even after listening to all the bad mouthing of the locks you will find around here.

 

[devilfrog1911]

I'm not a lock fan but the Model 21 and Model 22 I own (each with a lock) are great shooters with nary a problem with the lock.

 

[NFrameFred]

To answer your second question, most would say the odds are small, but in a carry gun 'small odds of malfunction' are more than I want to risk if I don't have to.

Most of the failures seem to be tied to a) hard recoil and b) failure of the 'flag' return spring which will lock up the gun in most cases I heard about, making it necessary to disassemble the firearm to fix it. Most who can stomach the ugly hole in the side just disable the lock or trust in God and luck.

 

[johns961]

Believe it or not. Some people do use those stupid locks. My gunsmith says he gets one of those guns about once a month when someone locks the gun and forgets where they placed the key !
I had someone else tell me if you place a small drop of crazy glue in the hole lock, you don't have to worry about it ! I think I hear it all in those gun stores !

 

[mod34]

For me it comes down to simple aesthetics. I buy SW's in part, quite simply, because they just look good. That friggin whole messes it up for me. Black out the tooth of a centerfold model and see how she looks........no remarks such as, "just fine from behind, thank you."

Also, you can find decent "vintage" SW's for less than the new ones. Just can't bring myself to pay the new SW prices when there is still plenty of good prelock stuff out there.