I have a vertical water bottle holder and there is a pouch to put my ID,CCW license and my Galaxy SIII phone
New Jogging Buddy for coyotes encounters
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I have a vertical water bottle holder and there is a pouch to put my ID,CCW license and my Galaxy SIII phone
Now that would be very scary, and fast too.
You may have a sub species of the Eastern Wolf/Coyote Hybrid. It is about the same size as a yearling wolf and looks like a darker colored coyote. "shoot first, check for canine identification card later."
Anyone in the lower 48 who thinks that coyotes are not in their area might want to rethink that scenario. They are there, you just haven't seen one yet. I have seen them in Conneticut, Virginia, and of course inCalifornia. They used to come up to the front door of the Photo Lab at Vandenberg Air Force and pounce on ground squirrels, in broad daylight.
We were on I 20 Sunday about twomiles outside of Vicksburg MS and there was a coyote on the side of the Interstate waiting to cross like he was at a traffic crosswalk. These things are dangerous and not afraid of people.
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Erich
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Dave, I'm really loving my Pistol Wear holster belts - they work very well for such use.
Pistol Wear - Comfortable Concealment Holsters For Concealed Carry
Back in October three coyotes attacked and killed my dog in my back yard when I was only 15 feet away. I never held a gun until that happened. I now own a .38 special, a Colt Python and a S&W Governor and have become addicted to the sport/activity of shooting.
BigBill
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When I was able to walk for miles me and my brother would hunt up in the higher elevations of the green mountains were no man has been there for many years. Even the chipmunk would stare at us saying what the check is it? I came across different looking scat and mountainlion tracks in the snow. This cat was following a sow and her cub. I took pictures of the track next to a pack of cigarettes for a size comparisons. I sent the pic to tracking guy in the northeast and he confirmed its a mountainlion. That was 25 years ago "about". A decade ago I had a mountainlion my camp growling as us from above us on the ridge. This tells me they took 15 years to multiply and look into the lower elevations for food. My point is now at night the yotes are running in the big valley that's in front of my camp. It seems to be more and more around as the population increases. No one is really trapping or killing them. This is why we are seeing less and less deer.
Bill
Bill
armenius
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Lots of tracks and hairy droppings,but hardly ever see a coyote from a deer stand,but hear them after the hunt.Dogs are another matter,and I'm glad I carried my 2 1/2 66 when a stray Doberman attacked me in my tractor shed!I was removing the wheel from my bush hog.The dog came to rest with its head touching the side of the bush hog.A Silver Tip 357 entered the forehead with no exit wound.Too busy shaking to autopsy for wound channel and bullet.My new rule is let no strange dog without collar come within decent gunshot.
I can hear them at night in the conservation land behind my house. I'm in suburban town outside of Boston and I have seen them even during the day. They seem to like to snack on small dogs and cats.
I don't jog, but I do bike. I've taken to carrying my 642 in a fanny pack holster.
I'm more concerned about two legged predators, even in my "safe" area.
I don't jog, but I do bike. I've taken to carrying my 642 in a fanny pack holster.
I'm more concerned about two legged predators, even in my "safe" area.
Double-O-Dave
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There are no coyotes, feral dogs or wolves within miles of me. My concern while walking my dogs was running into a pit bull(s). Imagine my great surprise when my two small dogs and I were recently attacked by a pair of Boxer dogs. Fortunately, no one, 4-legged or 2-legged, got hurt that evening, and I got a great lesson about how stupid I was in wrapping the dog leashes around both of my hands and not being able to access either the J-frame in my front pants pocket (firing hand side), nor the folding knife (SOG Escape) in a pouch on my belt (non-firing hand side). When I walk the dogs now, I: 1) make sure not to wrap the leashes around both hands; 2) carry at least 2 handguns on me - one available to each hand; 3) added a fresh can of Pepper Spray to the key chain holding the front door key; and 4) try to keep my head out of my backside so I can stay alert to possible dangerous situations. The situation I was in with the two Boxers was so bad that if I had been able to get to either my knife or handgun, I would have used them then and there.
Best of luck,
Dave
Best of luck,
Dave
I always use a fanny pack designed to carry a handgun.
When I was Working I carried either a Cold LW Commander, and for the last several years before I retired we had to carry a 9mm, so I carried my Glock 17 and an extra mag in it.
The area around our station was not a good part of town, and I actually had to shoot a big dog that attacked me one day. It was a Rhodesion Ridgeback, that was the night guard dog for a business, that got loose.
The owner of the dog stated that it was a good thing I had a gun and shot him, as he would have chewed me up....
When I was Working I carried either a Cold LW Commander, and for the last several years before I retired we had to carry a 9mm, so I carried my Glock 17 and an extra mag in it.
The area around our station was not a good part of town, and I actually had to shoot a big dog that attacked me one day. It was a Rhodesion Ridgeback, that was the night guard dog for a business, that got loose.
The owner of the dog stated that it was a good thing I had a gun and shot him, as he would have chewed me up....
Packrattusnongratus
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Had a friend mushroom hunting about ten years ago. On her family farm, by a creek, she looked up across the creek as a mountain lion did the same on the other side. They regarded each other for a long while ( a few looong slow seconds) then both went the opposite way. She went home and called the conservation dept. She was told flatly there are NO mountain lions in Misery. She asked if that means she can shoot it then? The officer almost feinted. Said NO! Friend always carried from that point on. As for myself I have seen coyotes in town and had a vixen with half grown offspring in my back yard after about 1:00 AM in warm weather for about three years. That in spite of two big dogs in the kennel. Foxes never hurt anything but the coyotes I would draw the line against. Small children live in the neighborhood. Ok, and Old Folks..... like me.
jwk
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It is difficult for some city dwellers (I grew up in the tiny town of Houston before relocating to the country side.) to comprehend that firearms and knives are tools, albeit powerful tools, that many people need for their every day living, not to mention the constitutional need for protecting individual freedom. As a child we all carried pocket knives with us even to school and no one thought much about it. Today a grown man cannot carry a pocket knife into some buildings or into some cities like D. C. without risking a jail term.
I absolutely agree with this statement. While I enjoy firearms and related hobbies, first and foremost, a handgun and a pocket knife are tools. While I don't abuse them, none of my handguns are LNIB or unfired and I'm not afraid to have a gunsmith do something to make one more usuable. Before most S&Ws were round butts, off to the gunsmith they went. That is also why I really like the stainless steel handguns - no refinish required.
I absolutely agree with this statement. While I enjoy firearms and related hobbies, first and foremost, a handgun and a pocket knife are tools. While I don't abuse them, none of my handguns are LNIB or unfired and I'm not afraid to have a gunsmith do something to make one more usuable. Before most S&Ws were round butts, off to the gunsmith they went. That is also why I really like the stainless steel handguns - no refinish required.
Stainz
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I've seen red fox and gators around Gulf Shores, AL. Dead armadillos from down there to as close as a couple hundred yards up the hill from my home, NE of Birmingham. I've seen bobcat and what I was told was a coyote, looked like a large skittish grey/beige fox, at the FOP Range, Inc in Pleasant Grove, west of Birmingham. Deer and turkey were seen there, too - before that F4 tornado cleared the forest (and homes). Snakes in abundance, now.
The big cat was neat - he watched me at dusk bringing the target stands in from downrange, then evaporated. Moments later, he was standing up - shopping in one of the large refuse drums (I already had found the ammo boxes & brass - ha!). Without a sound he was gone. No tail, tufts on his ears, grey-beige - like my manx cat Katie - just seriously super-sized. Ever since, I've wanted a big domesticated cat...
Stainz
The big cat was neat - he watched me at dusk bringing the target stands in from downrange, then evaporated. Moments later, he was standing up - shopping in one of the large refuse drums (I already had found the ammo boxes & brass - ha!). Without a sound he was gone. No tail, tufts on his ears, grey-beige - like my manx cat Katie - just seriously super-sized. Ever since, I've wanted a big domesticated cat...
Stainz
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being from the southern most part of AZ, predators are the only thing i hunt. love deer and elk meat, but can't bring myself to shoot them for various reasons.
winter here, every weekend my ATV looks like a tank, SG 3" #4 buck DC choke patterned at 60 yards, one of several AR's depending on where i am going, all suppressed with 20 round mags (not that you need them, but if you run into illegals or smugglers it's nice to be on a semi level playing field).
coyotes are the worst animal in the west. have deciminated the elk and deer population, spread disease, eat birthing cows calves, rabies, etc. Bobs i either trap or shoot. starting at $300 a pelt and going up to $1200 they are def targets of opportunity. Fox go for 15-25 bux, and mountain lion we just keep since you may only shoot one in your life, but see many and many you don't see tracking you.
i never use anything less than a .22 mag and with that i ensure i'm within 50 yards. i have taken more with SG than with rifle.
i have an in city depredation license so i can just go hang out at a certain BK where there is a feast at the dumpster and smoke them with a .22 mag and can, little louder, but gets job done.
as soon as i see a buzzworm, my self imposed season is over. that was 3 weeks ago.
2013 stats were: 45 coyotes, 22 fox, 15 bobs, 2 lions (on a depridation hunt, normally only one per year). the furs paid for my entire winter and i travel the whole state. i have no idea the amount of feral dogs and cats i have taken....i lost count a long time ago. they just go in the dumpster unless they have a nice tail, then i will take it and tan it for my tail board in my man cave. you should see a feral jack russel mix when hit with a .308 boat tail HP! POOF gone!
i have only taken one dog with a handgun. i had just loaded up and was heading home when a coyote popped his head out of an orange grove lane. i pulled the truck over and he started trotting across the road. i did not have time to get rifle off rack so i pulled my XD40 out and double tapped right in front of his nose. first 180 grain TAP missed, second on hit him in the neck. this was at around 25 yards. needless to say, the damage from that round is incredible!
anyway just some Arizona information!
winter here, every weekend my ATV looks like a tank, SG 3" #4 buck DC choke patterned at 60 yards, one of several AR's depending on where i am going, all suppressed with 20 round mags (not that you need them, but if you run into illegals or smugglers it's nice to be on a semi level playing field).
coyotes are the worst animal in the west. have deciminated the elk and deer population, spread disease, eat birthing cows calves, rabies, etc. Bobs i either trap or shoot. starting at $300 a pelt and going up to $1200 they are def targets of opportunity. Fox go for 15-25 bux, and mountain lion we just keep since you may only shoot one in your life, but see many and many you don't see tracking you.
i never use anything less than a .22 mag and with that i ensure i'm within 50 yards. i have taken more with SG than with rifle.
i have an in city depredation license so i can just go hang out at a certain BK where there is a feast at the dumpster and smoke them with a .22 mag and can, little louder, but gets job done.
as soon as i see a buzzworm, my self imposed season is over. that was 3 weeks ago.
2013 stats were: 45 coyotes, 22 fox, 15 bobs, 2 lions (on a depridation hunt, normally only one per year). the furs paid for my entire winter and i travel the whole state. i have no idea the amount of feral dogs and cats i have taken....i lost count a long time ago. they just go in the dumpster unless they have a nice tail, then i will take it and tan it for my tail board in my man cave. you should see a feral jack russel mix when hit with a .308 boat tail HP! POOF gone!
i have only taken one dog with a handgun. i had just loaded up and was heading home when a coyote popped his head out of an orange grove lane. i pulled the truck over and he started trotting across the road. i did not have time to get rifle off rack so i pulled my XD40 out and double tapped right in front of his nose. first 180 grain TAP missed, second on hit him in the neck. this was at around 25 yards. needless to say, the damage from that round is incredible!
anyway just some Arizona information!
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BigBill
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I was at my camp in vt and at my neighbors house having a dinner party with all of us. On the way home to my camp on the other side of the valley we caught the rear half of a mountainlion going into the taller grass. I big fat curled tail caught my eye. On another trip my son seen a kitty cat in the national forest about 125yds away. I told him there are no house cats in the wilds. I said it's fished. Where seeing animals that are said to be extincs like the mountainlions. If you look at the many millions of acres that are still wild how can they say we killed them all? I say can't the mountainlions from Canada cross into the northern US and settle down here and breed too?
DonD
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Slightly off topic but related. Looked at a website that said that there were only 15 cases of human rabies in the US from "typical" animal bites in 2002-2005.
Of that about 7%, or looking like perhaps one case was due to foxes, 28% due to skunks and 38% due to raccoons. The rest due to a variety of animals. Not large numbers but common sense says as always if an animal that normally avoids humans is aggressive toward you, depart and best of all shoot on the departure!! Don
Of that about 7%, or looking like perhaps one case was due to foxes, 28% due to skunks and 38% due to raccoons. The rest due to a variety of animals. Not large numbers but common sense says as always if an animal that normally avoids humans is aggressive toward you, depart and best of all shoot on the departure!! Don
tsa45
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I've seen them and heard them while on my early morning jogs. I carry a Kahr PM9 in case a coyote or other predator won't take "go away" for an answer. I use a holster by 'Pistol Wear' which keeps the pistol comfortable, hidden and protected from sweat while I'm running. Very much recommended.
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