New MP15-22 - Feeding/Extraction Issues?
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So get it fixed by S&W or sell it. I had a Colt M4 OPS that I didn't like and sold it.
And I have read about the GSGs. You got a good one. Others have not been so fortunate.
I've had this happen also. Will happen in different magazines. I think the cartridge case is a little out of spec, but that is just a theory. When it happens, I need to get the pliars out to remove the cartridge from the magazine.
Yeah, I had a really had a hard time removing them too. I didn't have any tools with me at the range, so I took it up to the rangemaster and he removed them for me the times it happened.
It it safe to pull them out with pliers? I was kind of worried I might set them off. I was trying to work the bullet out so I could dump the powder before trying to work them out.
I didn't think to try it at the time, but maybe it would have worked to disassemble the mag and push it out the bottom? I'll have to try that if it happens again.
That bums me out about the magazines being backordered. I was really hoping to have some additional mags soon. Maybe S&W will surprise us and they be back in stock shortly.
JonahStark
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Go to 44mag. They have the 15-22 magazines in stock cheaper than S&W. Google them.
I actually use the pliers to slide the cartridge from the magazine. Priming material is in the bottom, not the sides I am gripping with the pliers. But be sure to wear shooting glasses if or when doing this.
Just checked, but I guess I'm a little too late. On backorder there too. Guess I'll just wait on S&W. I'll probably order a few of the 10 rounders once they are available too. Maybe they will be more forgiving than the 25's.
Give these guys a try. $19.95 and take off 15% if you type stimulus in coupon area.
Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 25rd Magazine
Gotcha, I was still a little nervous about doing this, but I guess if I'm careful sliding it out with pliers it's probably not a big deal. I'll bring some needle nose pliers with me next time in case I need them. I don't wear shooting glasses at the range since I wear prescription glasses, I'll just be careful trying to remove them.
I couldn't believe how tight those darn things were wedged in there though. I couldn't have gotten them out without tools, but maybe removing the bottom of the magazine and emptying them out will help.
Thanks. I just ordered two from them as well. We'll see which ones arrive first.
Can never have too many magazines, right? 
Thanks. I just ordered two from them as well. We'll see which ones arrive first.
Yes, never too many mags. Did you get the 15% off?
Yep, thanks for the heads up on the coupon code. Shipping was kind of pricey there, but not a whole lot of choices right now. I think $13.99 shipping for two magazines was a little ridiculous, but I paid it since there was the 15% off. I figure they only ended up costing around $2 more than S&W with the coupon code.
I may take the rifle out Sat or Sun with the existing mag and give it another try. Usually I can go across the street and plink at the neighbor's (he's got 150 acres), but I avoid it during deer season. Once I assure there isn't an issue with mine (or get it fixed), I'm planning on getting a can so I can just shoot in my yard. Much better than having to go to the range.
Woo hoo. Just got a shipment notice from Botech Tactical about the two mags I ordered from them today. Coming UPS ground from CA to GA so I don't expect them too soon with the holiday, but at least I have a few more on the way to me.
I'm still not sure if I've got problems with the rifle or mags or if I was just careless loading them, but I'm really excited because I love the rifle. I should have a good opportunity to run it with the new mags before I leave town for two weeks, so if it's still got problems, I'll drop it off at Academy to be shipped back before I leave town. I'm sure S&W will take good care of me and get it fixed up and since I won't be here to shoot it anyway, I won't miss it too badly. I'm guessing it will probably be waiting for me at Academy when I get back into town if I have to return it.
Take care
I'm still not sure if I've got problems with the rifle or mags or if I was just careless loading them, but I'm really excited because I love the rifle. I should have a good opportunity to run it with the new mags before I leave town for two weeks, so if it's still got problems, I'll drop it off at Academy to be shipped back before I leave town. I'm sure S&W will take good care of me and get it fixed up and since I won't be here to shoot it anyway, I won't miss it too badly. I'm guessing it will probably be waiting for me at Academy when I get back into town if I have to return it.
Take care
score69 ... You described exactly the same 2 issues I've been having with my rifle. Just got it earlier this month. I've had it out twice now. After the first time I read about the magazine loading thing. So next time out I was really careful to make sure the rounds stacked properly in the mag. I have three magazines and had the same issues with each using quality ammo (mostly). I shot 3 mags each of CCI minimag, Win super X, and the Federal Bulk ammo. Continued to get random FTE's and stovepipes without a big difference between magazines. Got a total of 12 failures out of the 225 rounds (4 Federal, 5 Win, 3 CCI)...not so good. I called S&W and they are sending me a return postage slip. Oh well, after reading other stories here I'm confident that S&W will fix it.
I wouldn't be surprised if the issues many are having with this rifle are due to the use of Rem Golden Bullet. This stuff is pure junk. I used it the first time out and you should see some of the spent casings...bulged at the bottom so it looks like a double rim. I think most of my problems the first time out were with this ammo.
Thanks for the info. While you didn't make me feel any better about my rifle, it's good to know. I have no regrets about buying the rifle though. If they have to take a trip back to the factory, I'm sure S&W will take good care of us.
Yes, it should have been correct from the factory and yes it's an inconveinence, but they will take care of the problem for us. It's going to be a really fun gun and I look forward to owning it.
Yes, it should have been correct from the factory and yes it's an inconveinence, but they will take care of the problem for us. It's going to be a really fun gun and I look forward to owning it.
FTF 15-22
Been out three times with my new 15-22, and have had my share of FTF issues. I've got 8 magazines for this rifle and 7 seem to do pretty well when using CCI 36gr hollow points. The 40gr round nose don't feed as well. Remington Golden Bullets are being saved for my Diamondback and my wife's Buck Mark, where they won't cause any problems. Yesterday, I shot 200 rds of CCI 36gr. Loading the mags with 20 rds each, I had 10 FTFs, where the ammo was pinched. I lock back the bolt, drop the mag, remove the offending bullet and put the mag back in and continue. Sometimes I get to fire an entire mag with no FTF issues - about 30% of the time. So, we started looking more closely at magazine loading techniques, and I believe this can help reduce this problem. My little carbine has about 450-500 rounds through it now. I believe it will do better as more ammo is run through it. BUT - I'm wondering if these S&W mags can be improved to reduce this problem. Seems that if the bullet is slightly nose up as the bolt comes forward that things are a lot better. I'm loading ammo one at a time, paying attention to the "cross-stacking" of the bullets, and cycling the loading assist to make sure that all rounds are positioned well (I only loading 20 rounds). I love this gun, it's accurate and an absolute joy to shoot! Thanks to all of you here on the forum for your contributions on this subject!
Bill
Been out three times with my new 15-22, and have had my share of FTF issues. I've got 8 magazines for this rifle and 7 seem to do pretty well when using CCI 36gr hollow points. The 40gr round nose don't feed as well. Remington Golden Bullets are being saved for my Diamondback and my wife's Buck Mark, where they won't cause any problems. Yesterday, I shot 200 rds of CCI 36gr. Loading the mags with 20 rds each, I had 10 FTFs, where the ammo was pinched. I lock back the bolt, drop the mag, remove the offending bullet and put the mag back in and continue. Sometimes I get to fire an entire mag with no FTF issues - about 30% of the time. So, we started looking more closely at magazine loading techniques, and I believe this can help reduce this problem. My little carbine has about 450-500 rounds through it now. I believe it will do better as more ammo is run through it. BUT - I'm wondering if these S&W mags can be improved to reduce this problem. Seems that if the bullet is slightly nose up as the bolt comes forward that things are a lot better. I'm loading ammo one at a time, paying attention to the "cross-stacking" of the bullets, and cycling the loading assist to make sure that all rounds are positioned well (I only loading 20 rounds). I love this gun, it's accurate and an absolute joy to shoot! Thanks to all of you here on the forum for your contributions on this subject!
Bill
chuck s
Member
Ya gotta load one cartridge at a time into the magazine, pulling the follower down just far enough to get it in and push to the back wall. Sloppy loading has caused a few stoppages for me.
Look at the cartridges thru the window. Should look like scales. If the pattern isn't consistent there's usually a loading problem -- and a stoppage.
Or so I've found via my vast experience of a single, 500 round day with the rifle.
-- Chuck
Look at the cartridges thru the window. Should look like scales. If the pattern isn't consistent there's usually a loading problem -- and a stoppage.
Or so I've found via my vast experience of a single, 500 round day with the rifle.
-- Chuck
Steel15-22
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Bent Shell Casings
I put 450 rounds out of my 15-22 today. I had 3 rounds that got bent. They were sticking straight up and stuck TIGHT in the front part of the mag.. They were very hard to get out of the mag. I try to be very careful loading mags. 3 bad rounds out of 450 is not bad out of any 22, IMO....
I was shooting CCI, Elliay and Fed bulk from WW.
Mine has already been back to SW for a OOB blast the blew out the ejector. I'd say it is a keeper for me now.
I put 450 rounds out of my 15-22 today. I had 3 rounds that got bent. They were sticking straight up and stuck TIGHT in the front part of the mag.. They were very hard to get out of the mag. I try to be very careful loading mags. 3 bad rounds out of 450 is not bad out of any 22, IMO....
I was shooting CCI, Elliay and Fed bulk from WW.
Mine has already been back to SW for a OOB blast the blew out the ejector. I'd say it is a keeper for me now.
