New owner of M&P full size. Problems?

I use snap caps and dummy rounds as a teaching tool in the NRA basic pistol class. Some eject, some don't. I agree with the advice from others. Don't assume you have a problem until you've shot the gun.

I think snap caps are really great idea and great way to train/practice at home. Also teach the Mrs.
 
Took the gun to the range today and it went well for the most part. 4 bullets didn't fire and didn't eject out of 250 that I fired. I had to re-rack to get them to eject.

I tested the same snap caps on two other guns at the range and had no issues.

Did anyone have any issues with the sights straight from the factory? Seems I'm hitting about 4 inches to the right and about 4 inches down from 7.5 yards.

Sorry if i missed it, but what ammo were you using, that 4 didn't fire/eject properly? Were they reloads, reman, factory ammo, etc? Maybe that could help determine if it was an ammo issue or gun related. I'd have added grip but i dont think (could be wrong of course) that would affect the round actually going off.

As for factory sights, i got my FS 9 last summer, never touched the sights and to 10 yards (only distances I've shot it so far, that's my range's limit) i do well with it as-is. In fact it will be more accurate than I ever will be.

Side note though i've only been shooting now for 3+ years, i've never used snap caps. On occasion i will dry fire my 9's, but all real practice is at the range with live rounds. 2500+ rounds thru my 2 MP's so far has been good practice (note 0 failure to fire or eject issues). Even for the wife, her 'practice' is at the range with me. So i couldnt offer any opinion on why a snap cap does or does not work in this handgun.
 
I think snap caps are really great idea and great way to train/practice at home. Also teach the Mrs.

If you have a friend that reloads have him, or her make you some dummy rounds. In fact a mag full. Be sure first what will feed in your gun then have them made the same. That will also give you the feel of the weight of a loaded gun. Don
 
I have a used police trade-in M&P40. I know the police officer who carried it on duty & he didn't have a single problem with it & neither do I. I was so pleased with the performance that I bought a brand new 40C & it's flawless. I wish the nut behind the sights was as flawless, LOL.

If you make an ammo change & find that the problem persists I suggest you give S&W customer service a call. Although I'm nowhere near being rich or even well to do I only shoot good brand name ammo for range practice, usually American Eagle & Winchester White Box occasionally. Not one fail to fire or fail to eject out of a couple thousand rounds though them. My LEO son shoots Blazer Brass through his duty M&P40 which is supplied by the PD for range fire at the Academy. Not a problem after thousands of rounds (2000 rounds while he was going through the Academy plus what he's shot through it since). We both use Speer Gold Dot JHP ammo for carry & shot a dozen or so rounds through our M&Ps each time we're at the range & so far no problems with that, either.

Don't judge ejection problems while using snap caps. The ejection could be altogether different while actually shooting live ammo.

Good luck!
 
Took the gun to the range today and it went well for the most part. 4 bullets didn't fire and didn't eject out of 250 that I fired. I had to re-rack to get them to eject.

I tested the same snap caps on two other guns at the range and had no issues.

Did anyone have any issues with the sights straight from the factory? Seems I'm hitting about 4 inches to the right and about 4 inches down from 7.5 yards.

Didn't fire so they wouldn't eject. What brand of ammo were you using? Some have hard (er) primers that don't always go off on the first strike.

Sights are set at the factory so they should be dead on in the area you are aiming. They will never be laser like because different ammo, different powders and different weights will give you different results. On top of that guns have ammo that they prefer. No two guns are the same. One may do better one may do worse but they should still be close....in the same general area you are aiming at. If you are brand new to guns it's most likely you. Your grip and or trigger control. The further alway you are from the target the more drastic the spread will be.
I think snap caps are really great idea and great way to train/practice at home. Also teach the Mrs.
They are ok but not needed. You can do the same thing without them (dry fire and rack the slide). And they don't always function like real ammo
 
Didn't fire so they wouldn't eject. What brand of ammo were you using? Some have hard (er) primers that don't always go off on the first strike.

Sights are set at the factory so they should be dead on in the area you are aiming. They will never be laser like because different ammo, different powders and different weights will give you different results. On top of that guns have ammo that they prefer. No two guns are the same. One may do better one may do worse but they should still be close....in the same general area you are aiming at. If you are brand new to guns it's most likely you. Your grip and or trigger control. The further alway you are from the target the more drastic the spread will be.

They are ok but not needed. You can do the same thing without them (dry fire and rack the slide). And they don't always function like real ammo

I used 4 different ammo to test.
Rear sight is not centered. It sits to the right of the gun.
 
I used 4 different ammo to test.
Rear sight is not centered. It sits to the right of the gun.

Loosen the set screw and move the rear sight until it's centered. Then it should be hitting centered. If it still hits low, it will probably because you are anticipating recoil and pushing forward on the gun as you pull the trigger.
 
When I started shooting my Shield the range manager told me to quit trying to push the bullets out of the gun when I shoot they would make it out on their own. That is what Scott was referring to in his post above. it got my attention and it really helped. Another thing I found out that really helped me was removing the strong hand little finger from the grip till my shots came up then adding in back till I found the pressure that I needed.
 
sANP CAPS ARE NOT REAL AMMO, AND THE MANUFACTURING TOLERANCES ARE NOT THAT PRECISE. THEY ARE FOR PRACTICING...NOT SHOOTING. RECOMMEND THAT A BRAND NEW GUN IS CLEANED THOROUGHLY AND THEN LUBED PROPERLY, INCLUDING MAGS. THEN, RUN 200 ROUNDS THROUGH IT. YOU HAVE A GREAT GUN...DANCE WITH IT.
 
Please understand that when you say this:
Did anyone have any issues with the sights straight from the factory? Seems I'm hitting about 4 inches to the right and about 4 inches down from 7.5 yards.
My response is based on this too:
First time gun owner.

With that in mind, I have a couple of questions for you...
Do you have any formal training?
How are you holding the gun? (a picture would be extremely helpful)
This is your first gun, but have you fired guns before?
If so, what kind/caliber?
 
Please understand that when you say this:My response is based on this too:

With that in mind, I have a couple of questions for you...
Do you have any formal training?
How are you holding the gun? (a picture would be extremely helpful)
This is your first gun, but have you fired guns before?
If so, what kind/caliber?

I took an intro class and fired/tested most 9mm pistols in a course of a month before purchasing.

I only have one picture of my very first time at the range with a Glock 19, 9mm at 7.5 yards.

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