New tip up .380 EAA Girsan MC 14T

[jetjky]

They wont hit the shelves until summer but I think they will be a success. So many seniors and women have problems racking slides, its nice to see a decent powered gun in a tip up version.

Girsan MC 14T - EAA Corp.

 

[LVSteve]

When I see pure blowback in anything bigger than 32 ACP. I move on.

 

[Imissedagain]

When I see pure blowback in anything bigger than 32 ACP. I move on.

Curious as to why.
Thx
S&Walther PPKs 380 fan.

I read about this new tip up barrel and like our Beretta Bobcats, 22LR, it might be interesting.
More so if it was all steel.

 

[GeoJelly]

I saw something about these elsewhere a couple of weeks ago. One of these will (hopefully!) be my first firearm made in Turkey. I've wanted one of the Beretta versions for a looong time - but they're just too crazy expensive. Thought I saw that it/they will use the same mags as the Beretta's. Good news and thanks for posting the pictures.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

I do think that they will be popular. Turkish guns have become somewhat well known and they're well made.

 

[LVSteve]

Curious as to why.
Thx
S&Walther PPKs 380 fan.

I read about this new tip up barrel and like our Beretta Bobcats, 22LR, it might be interesting.
More so if it was all steel.

Blowback 380s all kick out of all proportion to their caliber. Shoot a locked-breech 380 like a S&W 380EZ, Sig P238, or Ruger LC380 side-by-side with a Beretta 84 or a PPK/S and you will see what I mean. Pistols in 380 are often put forward as good for new shooters, but all to often the first one they try is a blowback gun and they get put off by the snappy recoil.

 

[Tex1001]

Curious as to why.
Thx
S&Walther PPKs 380 fan.

Back in my cop years ('73-'77) I wanted a small backup 380. The
only small one I could find was the old AMT Backup.
Blowback auto.
I shot it.
Thought I had broken my hand. I carried it but I didn't
like it.
Fast forward th about 2005. A friend lent me a Kel-Tek
P3AT. When I first fired it I truly expected the worst.
It was MUCH lighter that the AMT.
It was actually comfortable to shoot

Wanna buy a pair of old AMT backups?

 

[Echo40]

Neat, I wonder if Girsan was able to solve the issues with this design that resulted in it being discontinued by Beretta and Taurus.

Tip up barrels work well for .22 Short, .25 ACP, and even .32 ACP, but .380 ACP was always just a bit too hot for it.

 

[LVSteve]

Neat, I wonder if Girsan was able to solve the issues with this design that resulted in it being discontinued by Beretta and Taurus.

Tip up barrels work well for .22 Short, .25 ACP, and even .32 ACP, but .380 ACP was always just a bit too hot for it.

Seemed to work OK on the CZ 38.

 

[LCC]

Purchased a Sig 365 - .380 last week. 200 mixed rounds of HP and FMJ later it has replaced my 365 9mm for EDC. Accurate, mild recoil, and a few ounces lighter = lot to like.

 

[jetjky]

I saw something about these elsewhere a couple of weeks ago. One of these will (hopefully!) be my first firearm made in Turkey. I've wanted one of the Beretta versions for a looong time - but they're just too crazy expensive. Thought I saw that it/they will use the same mags as the Beretta's. Good news and thanks for posting the pictures.

I get kind of ill . . . when I think about buying any firearms made in Turkey but no doubt, they offer a lot for the money. I shot some skeet last week with some friends, some guys I did not know and the high percenter was shooting a pooh pooh Turkish over under. He cleaned 98 percent. Scraped all of us. Very nice shotgun.

This tip up .380 might be an option for ladies who cant rack slides. My wife is one of them. She does not even have enough strength to actuate a 22lr da revolver.

 

[jetjky]

Blowback 380s all kick out of all proportion to their caliber. Shoot a locked-breech 380 like a S&W 380EZ, Sig P238, or Ruger LC380 side-by-side with a Beretta 84 or a PPK/S and you will see what I mean. Pistols in 380 are often put forward as good for new shooters, but all to often the first one they try is a blowback gun and they get put off by the snappy recoil.

I was planning on moving her up to a Bersa 380 from the same sized Bersa 22lr that she shoots well. That tip up barrel is the game changer.

 

[Erich]

About time someone cloned the Beretta 86.

 

[jetjky]

Neat, I wonder if Girsan was able to solve the issues with this design that resulted in it being discontinued by Beretta and Taurus.

Tip up barrels work well for .22 Short, .25 ACP, and even .32 ACP, but .380 ACP was always just a bit too hot for it.

How so? Seems if the barrel locks tight, the trigger pull is ok, and it goes BOOM every time ... job done.

 

[jetjky]

Purchased a Sig 365 - .380 last week. 200 mixed rounds of HP and FMJ later it has replaced my 365 9mm for EDC. Accurate, mild recoil, and a few ounces lighter = lot to like.

Nice, congratulations. I still carry my diamondback DB9 in my jeans watch pocket once in a while while out riding the bicycle or just dog walking. Its puny, it kicks, but I can shoot it well. Thats all that matters. Glad we have choices. God bless America.

 

[LVSteve]

I get kind of ill . . . when I think about buying any firearms made in Turkey ...

How come?

 

[buckshotshorty]

LCC …You did exactly as I did and for the same reasons.

 

[Echo40]

Seemed to work OK on the CZ 38.

May be so, but this is clearly based on the Beretta 86 Cheetah with a tip up barrel, which to my understanding didn't hold up particularly well to .380 ACP and was discontinued.

 

[Nomadmax]

If I couldn't rack a slide, I wouldn't carry ANY auto, tip up barrel or not. I can't really tell from the pics, but it looks like that thing doesn't have an extractor. That's a big no for me. Most times, a FTE won't come out by flipping the barrel up. Then it's a club.

 

[Echo40]

The design doesn't require an extractor because gas pressure alone is sufficient to eject the cartridge from the barrel as the action unlocks.