New to shooting. SD9 question, help?

[treycann10]

Hey guys, new to shooting pistols. Picked up a s&w sd9ve yesterday for my first handgum for 289.99 put 100 rounds through it today at the range. The tigger pull is long and heavy, is there a trigger kit that can make the squeeze more around 4-5 pounds? Secondly it was hot in the ramge amd my palms were sweaty, the gun would slip in my hands, is there any rubber grips i can buy to help bettery grip? If you couldnpost links that would be best. Thanks in advance.

 

[skimp241]

Search for Apex trigger kit for the sd series pistols.Hogue makes a universal slip on rubber grip that should work.

 

[Short Bus Driver]

For the grip, I would go with a Lone Wolf Qwik Grip size 2. I have one one my Kahr P9 and tried it on my SD9VE and the fit was damn near spot on. I went with a Amazon.com: LimbSaver Pro Full-Frame Compact Semi-Auto Handgun Grip: Sports & Outdoors@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31qc7RdxvvL.@@AMEPARAM@@31qc7RdxvvL (12012) and it works good also, but it adds more to the girth of the grip and doesn't fit quite as good.

BTW I also have the Apex trigger kit, IMO that's a must have for these guns.

 

[shawn mccarver]

That pistol is designed to be more like a revolver trigger pull. If you think that is heavy, you should have tried the SIGMA and the SWVE Series.

In any event, the "trigger kit" you need is available at S&W, and it is called the M&P Semi-Auto pistol.

The entry level pistol appeals, often, to new shooters and to undertrained LE types, who have a tendency to have negligent discharges because they refuse to keep their trigger fingers out of the trigger guard until ready to fire.

Messing with springs and installing kits may have an effect on trigger pull, but they may also make the pistol more unreliable. Leave it stock and practice, or get an M&P.

 

[Short Bus Driver]

That pistol is designed to be more like a revolver trigger pull. If you think that is heavy, you should have tried the SIGMA and the SWVE Series.

In any event, the "trigger kit" you need is available at S&W, and it is called the M&P Semi-Auto pistol.

The entry level pistol appeals, often, to new shooters and to undertrained LE types, who have a tendency to have negligent discharges because they refuse to keep their trigger fingers out of the trigger guard until ready to fire.

Messing with springs and installing kits may have an effect on trigger pull, but they may also make the pistol more unreliable. Leave it stock and practice, or get an M&P.

May is the key word here. Any time you mod a gun (or most anything) you need to test to ensure reliability. Some people just have NO tolerance for risk. The Apex kit is well documented here without many problems. The one problem I recall was light primer strikes and Apex sent him a little heavier striker spring (still lighter than stock) to fix the problem.

 

[modraker]

The trigger pull is long and heavy, is there a trigger kit that can make the squeeze more around 4-5 pounds?

The Apex Tactical 3-spring kit brought my SD40VE from the stock 8lb trigger pull down to 6lb. The Galloway Precision 4-spring kit says it can bring your trigger pull down to 3.5-4.5 lb. If this is just a fun gun, I'd say modify away. If it is intended for self defense, I'd say be more careful.

 

[GKC]

Some people just have NO tolerance for risk.

Well, I don't know about NO tolerance for risk...it depends on what risk I am incurring. For a range gun/plinker, I might tinker with it...but for a HD/SD gun, I'd rather not modify the fire control group...or at least, if I am going to have it worked on, I'll have it done by a professional gun smith. That is just me...YMMV. If I couldn't tolerate the trigger as is (and I spend some time every night dry firing mine, and it is smoothing out nicely) then I'd buy a different gun. I like the heavier trigger on mine, since it doesn't have a thumb or grip safety. Again, that's just my preference.

 

[J Rich]

That pistol is designed to be more like a revolver trigger pull. If you think that is heavy, you should have tried the SIGMA and the SWVE Series.

In any event, the "trigger kit" you need is available at S&W, and it is called the M&P Semi-Auto pistol.

The entry level pistol appeals, often, to new shooters and to undertrained LE types, who have a tendency to have negligent discharges because they refuse to keep their trigger fingers out of the trigger guard until ready to fire.

Messing with springs and installing kits may have an effect on trigger pull, but they may also make the pistol more unreliable. Leave it stock and practice, or get an M&P.

I must be getting old..... Once again I agree with Shawn.


The OP is new to shooting. Who here thinks it's a great idea that he just start "garage gunsmithing" after owning a firearm for less than a week?

Master what you have! Which means practice, practice, and when you get done practice some more. Once you can get tight groups and know the firearm like the back of your hand then install the Apex kit.

 

[cbr6864]

Im amazed by people constantly buying DA handguns wanting a SA trigger. The operational mechanics of a DA trigger give you a heavy pull there is no way around that. If you want a light trigger buy a 1911.

 

[J Rich]

Im amazed by people constantly buying DA handguns wanting a SA trigger. The operational mechanics of a DA trigger give you a heavy pull there is no way around that. If you want a light trigger buy a 1911.

This is true, and a 1911 can be had for the price of an M&P. Only takes me 2 minutes to change the trigger pull on my 1911 and no need to buy a kit. They are wonderful guns.

 

[3hounds]

The M&P'S seem to have a lot of problem's.

They seem to be finally working them out though.

Put a spring kit in it and you'll like the gun much better.

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[Short Bus Driver]

I must be getting old..... Once again I agree with Shawn.


The OP is new to shooting. Who here thinks it's a great idea that he just start "garage gunsmithing" after owning a firearm for less than a week?

Anyone with any mechanical ability should be able to change a couple springs., but I'll agree, practice is the most important and works great for testing your new spring kits reliability.

 

[J Rich]

Anyone with any mechanical ability should be able to change a couple springs., but I'll agree, practice is the most important and works great for testing your new spring kits reliability.

I'll agree, but what is the OP's mechanical ability? I'm not saying the Apex is junk, I had one. The Apex kit is proven to be quality. I'm saying the OP and other people new to handguns could use some range time and a complete understanding of how the firearm works before changing the fire control.

Like Shawn said be thankful of the 8# trigger of the SDVE.

Sounds to me some folks around here that can't control an 8# trigger in the SDVE would be shooting off their toes with a Sigma 12# trigger in their hand. Just saying.

 

[Short Bus Driver]

Sounds to me some folks around here that can't control an 8# trigger in the SDVE would be shooting off their toes with a Sigma 12# trigger in their hand. Just saying.

I'll agree that it sounds like that sometimes, but for me, I just wanted a little lighter trigger. I had a SW40V with LEO only mags (it was a police trade in, I wish I would've kept one of those mags), it was OK. My old CCW was a Taurus 605 (.357 MAG) with the concealed hammer making it DAO. I never measured the trigger pull, but even after Wolff springs was heavier than the sigma. With the wolf springs I needed to change my carry ammo from CCI to Winchester for reliability.

 

[ditto1958]

My two cents: I wrestled with my SD9 for about a year, and got very close to selling it. Quite a few here suggested the Apex trigger kit, and I was tempted.

Recently, however, someone here "scolded" me, and pointed out that a "good" trigger can hide bad trigger control habits.

I initially was a little miffed, but then saw the light. I have been working on my trigger control with the SD9, as well as with my other guns, and my shooting is improving noticeably.

 

[WPWarhawk]

I liked my first SD9 so well (the all black version) that I bought a second one when the two tone version came out. I also own and have owned a variety of M&P's in every caliber.

I shoot the SD9 better than I do the M&P 9. I had my stepson, former Marine, try them and he too shot better with the SD9. Mine are both bone stock, but I think you'll find that a few hundred rounds will do a lot to smooth them up.

I've never had a malfunction of any kind with the SD9's or any of the M&Ps.

 

[belizeanboy]

Have the SD9 and the trigger has been getting better. Maybe it is me getting use to it, don't know, but the other day went shooting and I was taken by surprise on the first shot - I was behind - very scary feeling when you hear bang when you weren't expecting to hear bang so I really do think it is the trigger smoothing out. I have 1000+ through my SD9 and ZERO issues. The gun has sent everything down the barrel with no malfunctions. I love it!

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