New Walther PPK/s .22LR-photo post #13

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Rarely do I or my wife jump on the newest thing these days. The gun glossies and net bloggers have been giving pretty good press the the new Walther PPK/s .22 LR pistol. American Handgunner had an article with great photos of a nickel plated version.

Saturday, we made a trip to a gun, sporting goods and clothing outfitter shop we visit about four times a year. Lo and behold they had a new nickel plated PPK/s .22 in the case. Looked as good in person as it did in the magazines. Felt good in the hand. Workmanship was nearly flawless. Price was manufacturers list, as expected for a new to market gun. The wife examined it, and loved it so we bought the little Walther.

At home, I did a quick take-down (EASY!) and clean/lube with Weapons Shield. Sunday we went to the local range and set up at seven yards. I had CCI Mini-Mag 40 grain and Winchester bulk 235 36 grain HP ammo with me. The Walther ran flawlessly with the Mini-Mags and was dead-on elevation wise. Ten shot standing groups were pretty good for a pistol with such a short sight radius. The Winchester 235 ammo also grouped well, however the light bullet caused numerous stovepipe jams (easily cleared by racking the slide) due to lake of inertia making the slide short-cycle. Controlled rapid fire was easy. I'm sure just about any 40 grain 1240 to 1280 fps load should work well in the PPK/s .22.

The good and bad. Good -fit finish and function. It is a darn nice, good looking .22 version of 'James Bond's Gun'. The beavertail grip eliminates any chance of hammer bite. Magazine is very easy to load with a full 10 rounds. Windage adjustable back sight and three different height front sights make sighting-in easy. The single action trigger is very crisp and breaks around 6lbs. After 325 rounds, clean-up was easy. The slide and frame mated very nicely. Appears to be durable. Barrel is threaded for the same adapter as the P-22 so you NFA types can add a suppressor can with ease.

The bad- Don't try and shoot the PPK/s .22 double action! Man sakes alive, that trigger must be close to thirty pounds!
As is normal custom in these times it comes with only a single mag and additional magazines are tough to find at the moment. I resorted to paying $3 above list price (list is $32) for two on flea-bay. Price $399 with the much better looking nickel plated version I bought listed at $429, which is about $70 more than some of the 1911 .22LRs.

Conclusion- if you like the looks and feel of the PPK and have always wanted a cheaper to shoot than .32 ACP/380 ACP version, the New PPK/s .22 has a lot to love. Mine will see a lot of trips to the range for can plinking duty!
 
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A couple years ago I shot a friend's Walther PPK/S .22. It was a great gun and never jammed. So when I decided to get a .380 I waited for specifically an Interarms PPK/S in the $400 range to show up for sale and got a mint one for $425. I love it but wish it had a lefty safety. I find it difficult to keep the trigger guard pulled out when dissembling so I cut a 1" square piece of leather and slip it between the trigger guard and frame. Post a pic of your nickel gun if you get a chance.
 
Here is a partial cut and paste of a post I made about the trigger pull on the S&W Bodyguard 380.




As a comparison I tried out two of the new Walther .22s. Do not remember the model but it's built on the PP/PPK chaises.

That Walther THING has a DA trigger pull that is not measured in lbs/oz but should be clocked in tons.:mad: I was thinking of getting it but after trying the pull on two different guns said NO WAY!

Now anyone that complains about the Smith BG go try one of those Walthers, you will then not complain about your Smith anymore.:D
 
I have been wanting a Bersa .22 and looked hard at the Walther in the local gun store. It looks to be pretty high quality, unlike many of the 1911 .22s that have the zinc/potmetal slides. I have always liked the James Bond guns so am quite tempted to get the Walther but everyone says it has a VERY hard double action pull. The original PP and PPK guns didn't have very good DA triggers either but the new .22 is so excessive it is really a poor design in linkage and leverage. I would very rarely use a DA first shot on a .22 but I still don't want a gun that has over a 15lb DA trigger pull so I will wait a while and see if the factory can improve the trigger before I buy one.

I hear the barrel is threaded for a suppressor but how exactly do you attach one if it doesn't protrude from the slide?
 
The real nickel plated finish on the new generation Umarex/Walther PPK/s .22 is very well done and tipped the scale in favor of my buying one. I wish one of the manufacturers of 1911-.22's would provide one with a finish this nice. Even the $850 Kimber Match .22 comers with a spray painted looking epoxy !

As for the DA trigger- Neither my wife nor I are planning on using the PPK/s 22 as self-defense gun, so the Herculean effort required to pull the trigger DA isn't a deal breaker. I would NOT buy this gun for serious duty.

To attach a suppressor, first you remove the thread protector/ end of barrel and then attach an adapter which sticks out past the end of the muzzle. The can then threads onto that- same as the P-22 and also the GSG 1911's.
 
A couple years ago I shot a friend's Walther PPK/S .22. It was a great gun and never jammed. So when I decided to get a .380 I waited for specifically an Interarms PPK/S in the $400 range to show up for sale and got a mint one for $425. I love it but wish it had a lefty safety. I find it difficult to keep the trigger guard pulled out when dissembling so I cut a 1" square piece of leather and slip it between the trigger guard and frame. Post a pic of your nickel gun if you get a chance.

I have 2 S&W Walther's, .32/.380 and have had very good luck with both.

Buy yourself a Haagen-Dazs, Vanilla milk chocolate bar with almonds, eat the thing and save the stick, I cut it in half and use it on the trigger guard.;)
 
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Thanks for the review, this is the one new gun I have been lusting after. I have a PPK and a PPK/S that I enjoy shooting. They are both very accurate but do have the heavy double action. Oh, mine are both 380s.
 
Thanks for the review, this is the one new gun I have been lusting after. I have a PPK and a PPK/S that I enjoy shooting. They are both very accurate but do have the heavy double action. Oh, mine are both 380s.

Rack in a round, decock, when ready, pull hammer back, and fire away.:cool:
 
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"I find it difficult to keep the trigger guard pulled out when dissembling so I cut a 1" square piece of leather and slip it between the trigger guard and frame. "

Pull the guard down and then to the side so it sits on the edge of the frame.
The guard pivot pin is made with a relief cut on the inside just for this slight sideways motion during TD.

On some pistols, the guard wants to jump back into place off of the frame as it's under heavy spring tension when pulled out of position and too the side.

Place your trigger finger on the side of the guard to hold it there once it's out and in position on the edge of the frame.
Then pull the slide all the way back, lift the back up and forward off the frame.
 
Thanks for the review, this is the one new gun I have been lusting after. I have a PPK and a PPK/S that I enjoy shooting. They are both very accurate but do have the heavy double action. Oh, mine are both 380s.

I have a couple of PPKs in .380 the trigger pull in those two are heavy but no where near the .22 I posted earlier about.
(Other than the awful trigger I would have bought one of the two guns the dealer let me look at)

That .22 is in a class of its own. The bad thing is unless this gun is different inside than my older center fires there is not much that can be done to improve it. Even the single action pull was major league severe!
 
That .22 is in a class of its own. The bad thing is unless this gun is different inside than my older center fires there is not much that can be done to improve it. Even the single action pull was major league severe!

The single action pull on the new generation PPK/S 22 is quite good for a pocket pistol. My sample is crisp and just under 6lbs-certainly not target grade-but not severe either. Has much less creep than either of my Ruger MKIII's.

You are correct that the design of the PPK innards do not lend themselves to action slicking gunsmithing.
 
IIRC, the review of the one they tested listed the SA pull at 3lbs., 8oz. That's a far cry from 6. DA was 14 lbs. Perhaps they got a "special" one. This was in the latest American Rifleman.
 
IIRC, the review of the one they tested listed the SA pull at 3lbs., 8oz. That's a far cry from 6. DA was 14 lbs. Perhaps they got a "special" one. This was in the latest American Rifleman.

I'll have to try my Lyman digital pull gauge again now that the PPK has 325 rounds through it. Will post new results tonight along with a photo or two of the gun. ]Checked the pull again several times-still exactly 6lbs with no creep- My American Hangunner magazine article says their sample was a "Crisp 6.5 lbs" so it looks like American Rifleman got a tweaked sample IMHO/
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