Night Guard 386 revolver -- trigger

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REQUEST FOR HELP or INFO: I am asking for any experience with or suggestions about a Night Guard 386 revolver: (1) has anyone had or heard of similar problems, and (2) any advice on what I should do?

BACKGROUND: I bought a new Night Guard 7-shot revolver on the L-frame with the 2.5" barrel several years ago. Night Guards are constructed with scandium. Initially dry-firing it with snap- caps after buying the revolver, I found it extremely difficult to 'fire' the entire cylinder of 7 snap-caps. I've had no similar problem with any of my other J, K or L-frame revolvers over many decades. The first time I contacted S&W, I was told that the factory set the trigger at 10 pounds and the customer service rep didn't seem to give credence to my complaint. I had measured the trigger pull on a friend's scale and it exceeded the 12 pounds of the scale. Thereafter I dry-fired the revolver with snap-caps in the vain attempt to improve the trigger; I never fired live cartridges in the gun. After having moved and 're-discovered' this revolver in my gun safe, I contacted S&W again recently. They suggested I locate a local (Albuquerque, NM) gunsmith using their dealer locator function on the S&W website. I did so but found that none of 3 gun stores listed as having a S&W certified armorer/gunsmith on-site actually had a gunsmith and another store said its gunsmith only worked on guns sold by that store and, in any event, doesn't do trigger jobs. S&W then suggested that I return the revolver to them. I did so, with S&W making it a very easy and convenient process. S&W returned the revolver after several weeks with a brief note that the trigger pull had been adjusted and a new firing pin installed. I called S&W to ask why a new firing pin was installed and what had been the problem with the trigger pull. The customer service rep was polite but said that information wasn't available. The trigger pull is better but still worse than any of my other S&W revolvers. By comparison, I also have a 686 Plus 7-shot revolver with the 2.5" barrel and it has a great trigger pull.
 
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I LOVE Night Guards. However they hit the Personal Defense market a decade after most buyer want to be cool and own a semi-auto

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It is hard for me to determine what help you are asking for

If you are asking if some Smith and Wessons leave the factory with heavy triggers, the answer is YES

If you are asking what to do with a revolver whose trigger pull is not to your satisfaction, I would say have a trigger job done to it

I own more than my fair share of Smith and Wessons. I can tell you that no two left the factory with the same trigger feel. Even my three Night Guards did not all feel the same

The first thing I do is spend about a month dry firing (usually during the News) to get all the parts to work into each other, just like you were doing

If after that I am still unhappy, I just do a trigger job
 
Nice bunch if Night Guards you have. Sorry if I wasn't clear. I wondered whether my Night Guard experience was common or rare. It is nice to know that others have found Night Guard triggers to be very heavy. I am thinking about trying to find a gunsmith to do a trigger job though that may be a somewhat problematic if I want a local gunsmith based on my experience to date. There doesn't seem to be another option. I had hoped that the trigger pull would be better when S&W returned it.
 
REQUEST FOR HELP or INFO: I am asking for any experience with or suggestions about a Night Guard 386 revolver: (1) has anyone had or heard of similar problems, and (2) any advice on what I should do?

BACKGROUND: I bought a new Night Guard 7-shot revolver on the L-frame with the 2.5" barrel several years ago. Night Guards are constructed with scandium. Initially dry-firing it with snap- caps after buying the revolver, I found it extremely difficult to 'fire' the entire cylinder of 7 snap-caps. I've had no similar problem with any of my other J, K or L-frame revolvers over many decades. The first time I contacted S&W, I was told that the factory set the trigger at 10 pounds and the customer service rep didn't seem to give credence to my complaint. I had measured the trigger pull on a friend's scale and it exceeded the 12 pounds of the scale. Thereafter I dry-fired the revolver with snap-caps in the vain attempt to improve the trigger; I never fired live cartridges in the gun. After having moved and 're-discovered' this revolver in my gun safe, I contacted S&W again recently. They suggested I locate a local (Albuquerque, NM) gunsmith using their dealer locator function on the S&W website. I did so but found that none of 3 gun stores listed as having a S&W certified armorer/gunsmith on-site actually had a gunsmith and another store said its gunsmith only worked on guns sold by that store and, in any event, doesn't do trigger jobs. S&W then suggested that I return the revolver to them. I did so, with S&W making it a very easy and convenient process. S&W returned the revolver after several weeks with a brief note that the trigger pull had been adjusted and a new firing pin installed. I called S&W to ask why a new firing pin was installed and what had been the problem with the trigger pull. The customer service rep was polite but said that information wasn't available. The trigger pull is better but still worse than any of my other S&W revolvers. By comparison, I also have a 686 Plus 7-shot revolver with the 2.5" barrel and it has a great trigger pull.

You may get more results if you post this in S&W Smithing.
Bob
 
Sorry if I wasn't clear. I wondered whether my Night Guard experience was common or rare.


I have a 386 NG too. Bought used, it came with the heaviest DA trigger pull I had ever experienced on a S&W revolver. All my efforts to lighten the trigger pull resulted in misfires so I tried to sell it locally. It was on consignment for almost a year but no takers (I was asking what I paid for it) so I brought it home. I put the original spring back in but changed the strain screw. I also installed an after market, extended firing pin.


BY this time I had fired, and dry fired it hundreds and hundreds of time. The pull was getting smoother but still heavy. I have decided to live with it since it at least sets off all the primers I have tried through it.


YMMV,
Dave
 
My 325NG double action is a little heavy, but smooth. Single action is awesome.
 

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