no audible trigger reset

[Twodog09]

I bought and installed the Apex M&P Shield Carry Kit, the trigger pull is lighter and crisper but I don't hear or feel the reset. everything I've read says I should feel or hear the reset after installing this kit. Did I do something wrong? I followed the Youtube video step by step.

 

[RobzGuns]

Could you hear and feel the reset with your factory trigger?
Did you watch the Apex video as you did the swap? Is the trigger actually resetting? The video shows how to test for reset. If it's resetting properly, I wouldn't worry about it.

As the video shows, the slide off, pull the trigger, pull the bar outboard (toward the side of the frame) so it disengages the sear and release the bar. Then, as you release the trigger, the 'click' you hear and feel, is merely the trigger bar snapping back into it's normal position.

If it's not resetting, you may need to adjust the 'Loop' on the end of the trigger bar. Apex has a video dealing with adjusting the loop.

 

[Twodog09]

I figured it out, thank you for the info.

 

[skip4309]

I bought and installed the Apex M&P Shield Carry Kit, the trigger pull is lighter and crisper but I don't hear or feel the reset. everything I've read says I should feel or hear the reset after installing this kit. Did I do something wrong? I followed the Youtube video step by step.

I just installed the APEX hard sear only and WOW! The break is much crisper and the reset (although not as audible as my Glocks) has a much more positive feel. I have shot over 2000 rds thru my Shield9 and the the break was always a little mushy (to me) and the reset was not great. Although I don't have a noticible 'click' on the reset I can feel it. Big thumbs up to APEX on the sear. Should have done this a long time ago. Can't wait to shoot it

 

[keithherrington]

I'm honestly at a loss...

All you reset guys bear with me for a moment. I've shot revolvers in competition, carried them and used them for over 40 years. They don't have an audible or tactile reset. I've shot, carried and used 1911s for the same amount of time and the tactile and audible reset is so faint that I never paid any attention to it. Now it seems that if your gun doesn't have an audible and tactile reset then that's a bad thing.

I need to know...when you guys shoot at speed, in competition or under stress, do you actually govern your shooting by the reset? I'm having a hard time accepting it's as important as you make it seem. I'm fully prepared to have my mind changed but I need to hear some compelling justifications for doing so.

Keith

 

[AR-Getsome]

All you reset guys bear with me for a moment. I've shot revolvers in competition, carried them and used them for over 40 years. They don't have an audible or tactile reset. I've shot, carried and used 1911s for the same amount of time and the tactile and audible reset is so faint that I never paid any attention to it. Now it seems that if your gun doesn't have an audible and tactile reset then that's a bad thing.

I need to know...when you guys shoot at speed, in competition or under stress, do you actually govern your shooting by the reset? I'm having a hard time accepting it's as important as you make it seem. I'm fully prepared to have my mind changed but I need to hear some compelling justifications for doing so.

Keith

I don't shoot to reset. I don't train to reset. It boggles my mind why people shoot to reset. I never hear or feel it when I shoot IDPA.

 

[MyDads38]

All you reset guys bear with me for a moment. I've shot revolvers in competition, carried them and used them for over 40 years. They don't have an audible or tactile reset. I've shot, carried and used 1911s for the same amount of time and the tactile and audible reset is so faint that I never paid any attention to it. Now it seems that if your gun doesn't have an audible and tactile reset then that's a bad thing.

I need to know...when you guys shoot at speed, in competition or under stress, do you actually govern your shooting by the reset? I'm having a hard time accepting it's as important as you make it seem. I'm fully prepared to have my mind changed but I need to hear some compelling justifications for doing so.

Keith

Keith/cprher,

You're not the only one at a loss; I don't understand it either, and for the same reasons.

Always been a revolver guy or 1911/S&W 39-2. Bought my first poly frame 8-2-2014 (SD9VE) and have added an M&P 9 & 45 to the collection. The M&P 45 was made 2007 and hardly has any audible re-set, the 9 clearly does. It doesn't matter to me, because I don't shoot listening/feeling for re-set. In a SD situation, I feel it could be an issue and possibly get you hurt-or worse. This is just my opinion, I know most of the tacti-cool guys always talk about re-set and seem to make an issue of it. I'm just not sure why, either?

I must be showing my age-dang it

 

[Twodog09]

it doesn't matter to me either way, I'm happy with the crisper trigger break and less grittiness. I was curious if I did something wrong on the install because I wasn't feeling or hearing the re-set everyone talks about after installing this kit.

 

[MichiganScott]

After shooting tens of thousands of rounds from both rifles and handguns over the past 40 years, I'm lucky to hear the television anymore, let alone a metallic click when I have both plugs and muffs on.

I don't see the point. Maybe I've shot DA revolvers and 1911's for too long.

 

[ATF]

The Ram is what makes an audible reset and as far as I know it is not available for the Shield and the newer M&P's. As others have said trigger control is far more important than listening for a reset and what the Apex kit does is shorten the travel and reset considerably.

 

[RobzGuns]

For me, being able to hear, or feel the reset, is only for knowing, at the gun counter during dry-fire, where the reset point is on a trigger system. I have never felt the reset during live fire and (obviously) not heard it either.

After shooting DOA for decades, then getting the Shield, while I don't intentionally "shoot to reset", I no longer need to completely release the trigger between shots with worry about "short Stroking".

 

[ChiefStealth]

I do practice shooting double-taps with my Shield. I use the reset. That is, I don't let the trigger return to full forward position before pulling the second shot. However, I don't hear, or feel, the reset. I just know, from experience, how much to let off the trigger before pulling the second time. Part of that experience was learning where the reset was during dry fire. Then, I could hear, and feel, the reset.