NO MAGS = NO SHIELD PLUS

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Well, I really loved my new Shield Pluses - All 6 of them, BUT....

As usual, Smith & Wesson just can't seem to get its act together, this time with Shield Plus magazines, so....

Yesterday, I sold all 6 Shield Pluses and bought 4 new Hellcats and 2 new Ruger LCP Max .380's. Tomorrow, I'm gonna buy a couple Ruger Max 9's. Lots of mags are available for them, as well.

Although the new Ruger .380's were just released about 2 weeks ago, there are plenty of extra magazines available and I have 4 of them.

And, when I bought my very first Hellcats almost 2 years ago when they were newly released, I had all the spare mags I wanted almost immediately.

Now, S&W is in a shambles, which is probably why there are no magazines and a real lack of innovation in their product lines. Oh, yeah, they have the .380EZ and the ShieldEZ...Ho, Hum.

But the real problems reside in the current management structure. The holding company just fired the S&W CEO, P. James. Dabney, who had rescued S&W from its almost bankruptcy back around 2008 and introduced the Shield, etc., etc.

Well, he's gone and now the recently spun off S&W division is being run by a couple of amateurs whose only claims to fame are marketing plastic bags and consumer products or some such ****!

We all know that Shields are assembled by almost completely unskilled laborers from buckets of parts and that the engineering staff has been extending the life of decades old designs for some time now rather than introducing the kind of innovative products that the present market is craving for. As examples, just look at the P365, Hellcat, Max9, LCP Max, etc., etc., etc.

Instead, from S&W we get overpriced and slightly upgraded and re-engineered M&P's and revolver re-makes, all the while pushing us to Performance Center options that cost much more than the competitors STANDARD offerings. This is a prescription for failure. Want evidence? It's spelled C-O-L-T.

S&W has NO REASONABLE EXCUSE for the complete lack of availability of spare mags for the Shield Plus. Nor, do they have any excuse for their distressingly SLOW warranty service on brand new guns. Nor, their unwillingness to provide reasonable time lines for repair and replacement parts. Nor, a whole lot of other company-killing methodologies that they have been employing during their continuing decline as a company.

It's too bad that the company's only defense for its obvious bad management are the few forum regulars here who offer all kinds of hypothetical and contrived excuses as to why problems in availability and quality exist at all.

The REAL problem is that these holding company ventures and spinoffs and reorganizations and executive shakeups always end up producing the same result - customer dissatisfaction which leads to brand abandonment and eventual unprofitability and reduced market share and then, the end of the brand. Does Colt and Remington happen to come to mind? Same sequence of events and the same end results.

I'm not going down with the ship. Best regards to all who may not realize that the end is near.
 
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If I had to narrow down to only two guns (which I don't have to do) I'd keep one Shield+ and one Hellcat OSP. But, if I could only have ONE, it would have to be the Shield+ because of the far-superior trigger!

S&W has really hit the sweet spot with the new Shield+. It's hard to imagine that they could do anything to improve this flat out winner of the current micro 9 competition except to make extra magazines available quickly. Hah!
You posted the above comments less than 2 months ago. That was a quick change of heart. :rolleyes:

Well, I really loved my new Shield Pluses - All 6 of them…

We all know that Shields are assembled by almost completely unskilled laborers from buckets of parts…
Another about-face… If they're made so poorly, how could anyone love them enough to buy 6? :confused:

Yesterday, I sold all 6 Shield Pluses and bought 4 new Hellcats and 2 new Ruger LCP Max .380's. Tomorrow, I'm gonna buy a couple Ruger Max 9's. Lots of mags are available for them, as well…
I'm glad you're smitten with your Springfield Armory and Ruger pistols. I believe you'll find forums dedicated to both brands.

I understand people are frustrated about spare mag availability, but that's somewhat understandable when they can't build the guns fast enough. I'm sure covid hasn't helped.

With 6 guns, you should have had a dozen magazines. I don't know about you, but I can't hold more than two pistols at a time. That gives you 5 reloads for each gun. You must live in a rough neighborhood! :eek:

It's too bad that the company's only defense for its obvious bad management are the few forum regulars here who offer all kinds of hypothetical and contrived excuses as to why problems in availability and quality exist at all.

I'm not going down with the ship. Best regards to all who may not realize that the end is near.
We're not associated with S&W Holding Corporation in any way, but we appreciate their history, their products and want to see the company survive.

A lot of our members like their new S&W's. There's no reason to belittle them.

I doubt S&W is going to fold anytime soon. They're building guns at a record pace and still can't keep them on the store shelves. That doesn't sound like a recipe for failure to me.

We're done here…
 
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