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So, I have a question. I was looking through my collection and there’s a few pistols and rifles that I haven’t shot in a very long time, and that I am unlikely to shoot in the future. I’m absolutely sure I’m not alone in that, we all have our favorites and economics kicks in hard, especially when we start talking about obscure ammunition. But within the limits of sanity and our collections, how do you look at your collection, and how do you deal with the urge to optimize, and what criteria do you have when it comes to Guns you haven’t fired in a while, or don’t carry often, or just plain don’t use much?

For me as much as I enjoy the hobby and the collectors value, at the end of the day, I try and maintain a collection that’s mostly usable in a lot of circumstances. Some of the guns that I really liked from a collector standpoint, I found were more difficult to live with as carry pieces, or duplicated another pistols role to the point where it made more sense to replace it. A perfect example was my model 19. It had a beautiful blue finish and nice custom wood grips, but those adjustable sights made it much more difficult to carry IWB, it was slower and heavier than my other pistols, and it was just too big and bulky to carry as opposed to the model 10 or 64. Eventually, I found myself tempted by a model 65, and I took the opportunity to combine my collection a little bit by selling the 19 and 64 (which I already miss because it was objectively a pretty great revolver), but intellectually I know the 65 is a fantastic and adaptable combat- proven pistol that will serve quite well and combine both roles into a platform that I am much more likely to be carrying.

Then, there’s the J frames. I have three snubnose .38s and enjoy them all, but I am tempted by a 3 inch barrel. Intellectually, I know the differences are minimal, but something like a 3 inch model 36 is still tempting. I’m not going to buy one, but it is tempting.

Adding to this, I’ve also got some sentimental firearms that I don’t want to part with (and won’t) and some semi automatics that are not currently in Vogue, but that I can very easily see myself becoming reacquainted with when wheel fever fades. Once again, I’m sure we’re all familiar with that feeling. Do you pare down or just shrug and build?

What I don’t want to do is fall victim to the no sell only buy mentality. I know I’ll lose a little money, but I don’t want my hobby to take over my man cave entirely, and at some point, I like to enjoy what I’ve collected by using it instead of having a gigantic safe full of stuff I don’t know about. Rifles like my Trapdoor fall in this area, it’s cool, but not that cool.

Tying this to carry, I’d like to get to carrying mostly the same thing most of the time, but with a consistent manual of arms being the priority.
 
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So, I have a question. I was looking through my collection and there’s a few pistols and rifles that I haven’t shot in a very long time, and that I am unlikely to shoot in the future. I’m absolutely sure I’m not alone in that, we all have our favorites …
Great question and my answer is thin the herd.

When I filled my Gun Safe I decided I was not going to get a second safe. So some left so others can have room.

I have friends who had two and three Gun Safes and for example, one died of a surprise heart attack. His children divided them up and took whatever the Pawn Shop offered.

Another friend had a serious stroke and he didn’t like to clean his guns after shooting because he went two or three times a month. Now he has safes filled with firearms he hasn’t cleaned in 5 to 10 years.

Due to mobility issues I have only two long arms, a 22 rifle and a AKM. Handguns is not yet a big problem but I am thinning them out too.
 
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Great question and my answer is thin the herd.

When I filled my Gun Safe I decided I was not going to get a second safe. So some left so others can have room.

I have friends who had two and three Gun Safes and for example, one died of a surprise heart attack. His children divided them up and took whatever the Pawn Shop offered.

Another friend had a serious stroke and he didn’t like to clean his guns after shooting because he went two or three times a month. Now he has safes filled with firearms he hasn’t cleaned in 5 to 10 years.
That makes sense. There’s a few I thought I would really like but don’t, a few that were “grails”, and there’s a few I like and shoot and then a few that get shot a lot.
In descending order of favor…
RIFLES:
Grandpa’s Marlin 336, first rifle I ever shot. Still the best.
10/22 (shot a lot)
Ruger Mini-14 (my “emergency” general purpose rifle) set up with a wide rear aperture and a Hogue stock***
1903A3….favorite and cleanest 30/06 milsurp
M1917 Eddystone: neck and neck, love the sights and I can run the bolt easily.
———
M1 carbine: fun range toy, but honestly haven’t shot enough to know it well. I do feel a little Pacific with it though, and it’s easily the least dramatic center fire rifle I have. Would be higher if ammo wasn’t weird.
Winchester 1894 ancient rifle from 1901ish…an excellent and ancient 30/30, but not Grandpas.
M1 Garand: for some reason it just doesn’t work well for me as a lefty. I can run it, but I’m no Shifty Powers.
SMLE NO 1 Mk 3: an RTI special in good shape, but the bore is iffy and I need to figure out what ammo it likes.
1883-vintage Trapdoor springfield: I can see why Custer lost.
M1898 Krag, sporterized: got cheap, but I’m also getting a full-military Krag later this year from a friend moving overseas. The Krag is a very underrated rifle.
Carcano: I call shenanigans on the LHO myth, this rifle sucks.

Pistols (harder to categorize) (carry/range)
Colt 1911
S&W pre-10 M&P (basically a clone of grandpa Art’s service revolver)
5946: this one is pretty fun and cheap, shoots like a dream and has a simple manual of arms. If I had to grab one pistol right now, this would be it.
S&W Model 65: my current autistic shiny fixation.
— ———
P229 .40: like it and DAO, scored for cheap, and I like that it’s .40 S&W.
Beretta 92: it’s an M9. I like that.
Beretta 84bb: solid midsize 380.
M1917 S&W: world war 1 vintage booms, technically Brazilian.
I like all of them, but I have the strongest emotional attachment to the M9, and shoot it well.


Business/Carry Pistols…I don’t see much turnover here because I really like these pistols for carry and I don’t foresee stopping that.
S&W 442
Taurus 85
S&W Model 36
S&W Generation 1 Bodyguard
S&W 3914


Questions:
are 3” revolvers worth it?
What to cut?
What is a good level of duplication vs unique?
 
What to cut?
What is a good level of duplication vs unique?
In Feng Shui they say every Spring get rid of 20% of your clothing. You know what you need. Once you do that you will do it in all things. My father grew up in the Great Depression so after WWII he was a hoarder. When he passed we needed 30 dumpsters to empty his house and garage.

I was a policeman so I rationalized why I needed pairs of revolvers. So I had dozens of K Frame revolvers. All the barrel lengths, blue, nickel and stainless and don’t forget 38s and 357s.
 
In Feng Shui they say every Spring get rid of 20% of your clothing. You know what you need. Once you do that you will do it in all things. My father grew up in the Great Depression so after WWII he was a hoarder. When he passed we needed 30 dumpsters to empty his house and garage.

I was a policeman so I rationalized why I needed pairs of revolvers. So I had dozens of K Frame revolvers. All the barrel lengths, blue, nickel and stainless and don’t forget 38s and 357s.
I don’t want to get to that point, I do like his-and-hers but to only a certain extent.
 
I have friends who had two and three Gun Safes and for example, one died of a surprise heart attack. His children divided them up and took whatever the Pawn Shop offered.
But he (I assume) had his enjoyment from them in life and what happened to them after his death won't change that.
 
If I need money because of huge medical bills or something like that, then I can see thinning. But if I sell off anything, then it's losing my "collection".

Obscure ammo? No such thing. I have ammo for everything I own, plus the components to make more. Plus, .223 is the ONLY firearm that I own that I DON"T cast boolits for.
 
If I need money because of huge medical bills or something like that, then I can see thinning. But if I sell off anything, then it's losing my "collection".

Obscure ammo? No such thing. I have ammo for everything I own, plus the components to make more. Plus, .223 is the ONLY firearm that I own that I DON"T cast boolits for.
I get that; I just find myself gravitating towards some and away from others
 
As for me when my first moderate sized gun safe was way over full i bought another one much larger to sit next it. It still had some space in it. Started getting guns back in the70's and haven sold one yet. I console myself with the idea that when equity markets drop guns tend to hold their value. And in societies upheavals as we have seen prices can jump up sometimes substantially. So i am content with my reasoning. Well.... plus i just want them, like them, have the room and don't need the money.
 
My close friend and business partner died almost two years ago at 81 (or was he 82?). He had serious cardiac problems and knew he wasn't going to live forever.

What he did not know was how many guns he owned!

Every once in awhile he'd bring a rifle or handgun to the range which he had just rediscovered. Made for some interesting conversation.

He didn't need money, pretty well fixed but he had Pythons in the box unfired and all kinds of other stuff he could have made a mint on.

I remember at his funeral the parson said, "You'll notice there will be no U-Haul trailer attached to the hearse when we leave here today." A reminder to the living to make plans for the inevitable I guess.

Luckily he had two sons who helped his widow deal with his armory.

Me, I've thinned the herd down to where I can count my guns without using my toes. I hope to be around a little longer (I turn 78 next month) but my rule these days is if I buy one I sell one.
 
Sold off my .45's about ten years ago due to arthritis. I can still shoot .38's and 9mm so I'm hanging on to smaller revolvers and pistols. Gave up hunting 50 years ago so most rifles and shotguns are gone.

But .22 rifles seem to be reproducing in the closet. Benchrest mostly. Frisky guns they are. I've tried to sell or trade two guns for everyone that I buy. Failing at that but it's the story I tell my wife. My father had the same problem but with fishing rods. Here was a guy I fished with and when he died I had to clean out the house. Absolutely no idea of how many high end fly rods he had stashed away. Surf rods from the '50's too, now sitting in my basement.
 
There are some really nice bench gun on the market. I've been shooting a 22 bench rest league at my LGC for several years now. Started out with a 10/22 and quickly switched to CZ Varmint, then bought a Tikka, now I'm shooting a Bergara. All very nice guns. So far the Tikka has been the most accurate.
 
Life's too short to worry about what will happen to your earthly possessions after you're gone.

Enjoy them while you can.

I don't sell my guns, but I do gift some of mine to valued family members while I can still enjoy seeing them enjoying them, and I keep buying more guns if they catch my interest.
 
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I sold most of one collection about ten years ago. The guns were in Hawaii where I owned a home, but I thought most likely I was going to mostly live in Japan where I had my main home at the time after a long career over there.

Then I wound up selling the Hawaii house, buying a home in Oregon, and the Japan house has become a second house that we visit in winter.

Had the remaining five guns — three revos and two rifles — from the Hawaii collection sent to Oregon, and have purchased additional handguns over the past several years.

But I am with Smithman 10, above, at this point. I'm 73 and don't want a large collection to worry about as I age. I've about a dozen handguns now, and try to sell one when I buy one. As I slow down, I think I will reduce. I think it would be perfect to pass away with one remaining old favorite left.
 
I have an "eclectic accumulation" of firearms. My son and 4 grandsons are "gun people" so I'm not worried about a pawn shop scenario. My intent was to will them all to my son and let him distribute them when he's finished enjoying them. But now I'm pushing 80 and thinking I'll let him take his pick and give each grandson a vault and around 25 guns each. Then my son can still split his up as he sees fit later. I'll still keep 10-15 that I enjoy shooting the most.
 
I worried about this and this is what I came up with. When I was young I had very little money
for guns . I had a 12gauge pump and a 10/22..
Later got a .22 hand gun then a groundhog
Rifle . Kids grew up house was paid off and got a better job.
I started buying guns that the good gun writers
Wrote about in the 60’s and 70’s.
I have them now and enjoy them immensely.
When I croak some are spoken for.
Some family guns will be handed down.
and the rest will be in a auction somewhere.
And I won’t be able to bid.
 
Rambling thoughts...
I've never yet regretted hanging onto a gun, but I sure as hell have regretted selling some.
Any time I'm tempted to sell or trade off a gun, I ask my wife, who always replies with "why in the world would you do that?"
I'm at a point in life when it's pretty certain I have guns I'll never fire again, and I'm fine with that.
The old-school survivalist who lingers in my subconscious continually whispers "but what if you need them?"
I have guns of not immodest value in my collection that may or may not continue to appreciate in value. I'm not going to constantly monitor the market, waiting for that perfect moment to sell. They'll be worth what they're worth when the time comes. Meanwhile, if I sell a gun I'll just have money, and money gets spent rather easily.
If the time comes to raise some revenue for important reasons, the guns will go, but unless things get dire, there are a few I'll keep till the bitter end.
My heirs will have a certain appreciation for the guns I leave them, but I do not entertain any fantasies about keeping the collection intact for future generations. They'll keep some and sell some. With luck I'll be able to anticipate that and do what's in their best interests before they have to make those decisions.
 
Unfortunately I have no friends or family to give them too. Haven't got a clue on what to do with them.

Rick
I’d sell most and do travel/bucket list things. Sports team pilgrimage, etc.

That and if I don’t have obvious or qualified heirs someone on the Internet will get a nifty prize for free.
 
A home with a range in the backyard, will most likely have the shooters, out of the safe, more often.

Two decades ago, our kids said,
"If you give us a gun every year, you'll get the enjoyment of seeing us use them, before you die."
Most of the guns, they bought, are safe queens, in our home.
Who doesn't love cleaning/maintenance for other people's firearms. 😻

That Colt, bought new in '80, is the only unfired gun, in the house.

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I’d sell most and do travel/bucket list things. Sports team pilgrimage, etc.

That and if I don’t have obvious or qualified heirs someone on the Internet will get a nifty prize for free.
hmm, could be. I'm financially quite well off, have traveled the US on my Goldwing and used to travel all around with my family in the 60's. Had NY Jets season tickets for 6 years in the 90's and the NFL Sunday Ticket since 1995. I've got no heirs. I do have a lot of time to think about though because I'm only 69 and have another 31 more years to go.

Rick
 
Well you can always give them away to your forum friends

(waves)

Hi friend 😁

On a serious note you could always list them here knowing they will go to people who appreciate S&Ws
I also have an outstandingly large collection of NY Jets stuff that will be in the same boat. I'd hate to see most of it get tossed when there must be someone out there that would enjoy it. But once again I have a lot of time.......

Rick
 
So, I have a question. I was looking through my collection and there’s a few pistols and rifles that I haven’t shot in a very long time, and that I am unlikely to shoot in the future. I’m absolutely sure I’m not alone in that, we all have our favorites and economics kicks in hard, especially when we start talking about obscure ammunition. But within the limits of sanity and our collections, how do you look at your collection, and how do you deal with the urge to optimize, and what criteria do you have when it comes to Guns you haven’t fired in a while, or don’t carry often, or just plain don’t use much?

For me as much as I enjoy the hobby and the collectors value, at the end of the day, I try and maintain a collection that’s mostly usable in a lot of circumstances. Some of the guns that I really liked from a collector standpoint, I found were more difficult to live with as carry pieces, or duplicated another pistols role to the point where it made more sense to replace it. A perfect example was my model 19. It had a beautiful blue finish and nice custom wood grips, but those adjustable sights made it much more difficult to carry IWB, it was slower and heavier than my other pistols, and it was just too big and bulky to carry as opposed to the model 10 or 64. Eventually, I found myself tempted by a model 65, and I took the opportunity to combine my collection a little bit by selling the 19 and 64 (which I already miss because it was objectively a pretty great revolver), but intellectually I know the 65 is a fantastic and adaptable combat- proven pistol that will serve quite well and combine both roles into a platform that I am much more likely to be carrying.

Then, there’s the J frames. I have three snubnose .38s and enjoy them all, but I am tempted by a 3 inch barrel. Intellectually, I know the differences are minimal, but something like a 3 inch model 36 is still tempting. I’m not going to buy one, but it is tempting.

Adding to this, I’ve also got some sentimental firearms that I don’t want to part with (and won’t) and some semi automatics that are not currently in Vogue, but that I can very easily see myself becoming reacquainted with when wheel fever fades. Once again, I’m sure we’re all familiar with that feeling. Do you pare down or just shrug and build?

What I don’t want to do is fall victim to the no sell only buy mentality. I know I’ll lose a little money, but I don’t want my hobby to take over my man cave entirely, and at some point, I like to enjoy what I’ve collected by using it instead of having a gigantic safe full of stuff I don’t know about. Rifles like my Trapdoor fall in this area, it’s cool, but not that cool.

Tying this to carry, I’d like to get to carrying mostly the same thing most of the time, but with a consistent manual of arms being the priority.

As a teen I traded a savage .22RF over .410 for a 12 ga.. a few years later I traded a .44 mag Blackhawk for a 336 Marlin and about 150 once fired cases. Today I wished I would have kept them both. I guess I’ll just buy another gun safe.
 

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