Not sure if I should trade, but wanna

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I have a Gen 3 Glock 20 (10mm) that is in like new condition, but hard to get ammo for. The grip is really huge, and my finger drags on the inside of the trigger guard when I fire it. But I am a big 10mm fan.

So, someone contacted me and wants to trade me a 60-14 for it.

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This is a Lady Smith in .357mag, which I am also a big fan of.

This is pretty much a straight up trade. I have the tupperware box and all of that for the Glock but I think he just has the revolver with no goodies. I have never had a J frame before, and am wondering if this is a good deal, or a so-so one where everyone makes out. From doing a little web research it doesn't look like I'll be losing anything. I just want to feel like I am at least making a good trade.

Any thoughts?
 
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In my area customers offer all the LGS more Glocks than they can resell. The stores price them for $375 to $450. On the other hand used S&W revolver are in short supply and we have hunt through the stores to find them. The revolver's missing box only matters for collector revolvers. I'd call that one a modern shooter and wouldn't even want to store the box. Even if you aren't coming out ahead dollar wise you are trading a frame built for long fingers for a frame designed for your short fingers. Jump on it.
 
I think it is a very good trade. As stated, Glocks are litterly a dime a dozen. Very functional guns, but the market is flooded. There is always a demand for the model 60, and I don't recall seeing any for sale without a price north of $500.

If you really like the 10mm, down the road, you might want to look at a 10mm 1911. Slimmer grip than the Glock.

Larry
 
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Last time I went looking to trade my Glock in on something else, the guy said he could give me $300 on it since the 10mm is not a popular cartridge. I am definitely coming out ahead over a trade in, I think. It will be the little sister to my mod 28.
 
[...] If you really like the 10mm, down the road, you might want to look at a 10mm 1911. Slimmer grip than the Glock.

Larry

Or maybe a 10xx 3rd generation S&W. Their frames are thinner and their trigger reach shorter than 1911s. Also it doesn't hurt that they were designed for 10 mm from the start.
 
I had a 1006 years ago before I hit a streak of hard times and had to sell it. Always on the lookout for a 10xx, but dang those prices are high! Then again, the new Sig 220 in 10mm isn't cheap either. I guess I have expensive tastes.
 
Trade, A friend was just offered $265. for his 10mm Glock Monday, thing was almost NIB, just to many out there...
 
go for it! the 60-14 is right now worth near the price of

2 Glocks and is much more scarce. If you want to go back to a 10mm Glock they should be pretty easy and cheap to find and buy later.
 
Classic S & W steel revolver over Tupperware wins every time, trade for it, you will love the revolver
 
Just my 2 cents worth, YES, I carried the Glock 20 for a few years as a duty weapon I never did like it. The dam thing is a boat anchor, I was soooo glad when we went to the Glock 22. The Glock 22 is soooooo much better. So take the trade and run!!!!
 
10mm is hard to find? Freedom munitions has over 100,000 rounds of it for sale. In this day and age no ammo is hard to find. In fact the last two times I have driven to my local gander mountain they had multiple flavors of 22lr for sale.

I would prefer the Glock in your situation if I wanted a gun to use, however the Smith will hold it's value better since new Glock gens come out and lower the previous gens value, which is almost exact opposite of the revolver world.
 
Trade, A friend was just offered $265. for his 10mm Glock Monday, thing was almost NIB, just to many out there...

And I have been offered dirt prices for many firearms I have had for sale also. The glock is worth way more than $265, unless you are selling to a dealer/pawn shop. I could easily sell one for $400-450 locally
 
Do the trade no doubt. You can always get a Glock if you miss it. Make sure you thoroughly check the 60-14 though. Your gun, your call. Good luck.
 
Not up on the Glocks but I bought a new smith 60-15 last year for $560 not a bad gun for 2 inch 357 and it handles them fine. If you're interested in switching to a revolver it's a nice one. Longer uncle mikes grips lets you hold it comfortably. That sold me first time I handled it.
 
When I say that 10mm is hard to find, I am talking about those times you suddenly get the urge to go to the range and you don't have any on hand. Sure, it's fine if you order it all weeks ahead, but trying to find range ammo at any LGS is pretty darn tough.

Not to derail my own thread:
After the trade, I have been thinking about loading it up with some of those 135gr short barrel gold dots. Anyone have any experience with those?
 
I've tried to get comfortable with large frame Glocks but even the SF and Gen4 is just too big for my hands...I would make that trade without hesitation if I was offered that deal.
 
Well, I did the trade. The 60 looks like it is brand new. I was trying to tempt my wife with it, so I could get my 1911 Pro 3" back from her, but no dice.

Ah well. Looks like I have a new warm-weather carry piece. Now I need to get a holster for it.

I'll get pictures tomorrow when the kids are elsewhere.
 
When I say that 10mm is hard to find, I am talking about those times you suddenly get the urge to go to the range and you don't have any on hand. Sure, it's fine if you order it all weeks ahead, but trying to find range ammo at any LGS is pretty darn tough.

Not to derail my own thread:
After the trade, I have been thinking about loading it up with some of those 135gr short barrel gold dots. Anyone have any experience with those?


I haven't shot anything alive with the 135 grain Gold Dots, but I was still a gun writer when I asked Speer about them maybe three years after they came out. Their writer contact man told me that both NYPD and LAPD had had a number of shootings with them, from two and four-inch barrels, and that they had proven very effective. These were the .38 Special version. I don't think those departments even authorize .357 guns.

I was told that the Short Barrel loads are okay for four inchers, but may over expand and underpenetrate if fired from longer barrels.

I load snubs and three-inch guns with them, but four inches and more gets conventional ammo.

That little snub is going to be fierce with full .357 ammo. A former employee of S&W, now with a different firm, told me that he fired a J-frame Magnum when they came out. He fired the first shot and thought, "Well, that wasn't so bad, after all." But by the time he'd fired the fifth round, he thought, "Thank God, that's over!"

The Short Barrel from Speer and the medium powered Remington .357 Golden Saber round were designed to be easier on the gun and on the hand. The 135 grain SB .357 lists at 990 FPS from a VENTED two-inch pressure barrel and may give that or close figures from a real snub .357. I think a three-inch barrel revolver may get about 1040 FPS.

You probably can't handle hotter .357 ammo well from that small gun.

We can't comment on this board now on The Lock, so I won't go there.

A .357 revolver will give reduced velocity from .38 Special ammo (compared to a .38 gun) , but there's some argument as to how much. The best estimate that I believe says from 25-40 feet. So you'll need to select ammo accordingly. I personally won't buy a two-inch .357 largely for that reason. But if you can handle those Gold Dot Short Barrel loads in .357 from that gun, I think you'll do fine.

I will say that I think that IF this gun is okay quality control-wise and hasn't been damaged by the prior owner, you made a wise trade. And if you don't like the gun, you can probably sell it for more than you could the Glock.

I understand that the Norwegian govt. issues 10mm Glocks to their scientific personnel who may encounter polar bears.
The Norwegian scientist who killed one with a S&W .44 Magnum may well have been using his own gun.

I guess that if your hands are large enough and you really need that arm, a 10mm Glock may be okay. It sure beats nothing. The 10mm Colt supposedly wears much more rapidly than the .45 version does. My feeling is that I have to use a 10mm, I'd want a H-K carbine.

Chances are, that little .357 will suit your lifestyle better than a Glock that 's too large for your hand, firing a ctg. that you probably won't need for most of your year.

If you do need a bear pistol, you can always buy a M-629. In the meantime, you need a small gun that'll share ammo with your M-28.
 
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OK, pics!

This is what I traded
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This is what I got

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This is the big brother. Yes, that is a white ramp insert!

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And the oddball cousin. The gun my wife "adopted" as hers.

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Finally, all three of my smiths together. Not a huge collection, but slowly growing.

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Now the great thing about your smith is the front sight is pinned. You can change out the front sight to either a night sight or fiber optic sight. I carry the gold dot in my 640-1 and 637 with a couple of extra speed strips. That is the ammo most of the departments here in Southern California issue including mine

Tony P
 
Right now what I have at home ammo-wise is Federal 158gr Hydrashoks, Hornady 125gr Critical Defense or 158gr Black Talons. Hydrashoks and Black Talons being old school, I would probably load up the Lady with the Hornadys.

Of course, after a few rounds I might wimp out and start using .38 special +P instead. I don't know, though. Maybe I'll like the abuse!
 
... This is a Lady Smith in .357mag, which I am also a big fan of ...

My understanding is that the Ladysmiths were better fitted than standard production revolvers. I have a Model 65 and a model 60 and they are fine and smooth. I dunno, seems almost Custom Shop items.

Let me know if I'm mistaken.

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