NRA says it opposes idea of banning transgender Americans from owning guns

Status
Not open for further replies.
Joined
May 16, 2005
Messages
15,930
Reaction score
38,795
Location
Oregon
Good for the NRA! (This is gonna seriously mess with some people's heads!)

Amid reports the Justice Department is weighing banning transgender people from owning firearms in response to last month's mass shooting at a Minneapolis Catholic church, the National Rifle Association said Friday it will oppose any blanket rule that limits Second Amendment rights.

Their declaration comes after CNN and other outlets reported that Justice Department leadership is considering whether it can use its rulemaking authority declare that people who are transgender are mentally ill and can lose their rights to possess firearms.

"The NRA supports the Second Amendment rights of all law abiding Americans to purchase, possess and use firearms," the organization said in a social media post."NRA does not, and will not, support any policy proposals that implement sweeping gun bans that arbitrarily strip law-abiding citizens of their Second Amendment rights without due process."


 
Register to hide this ad
Good for the NRA! (This is gonna seriously mess with some people's heads!)

Amid reports the Justice Department is weighing banning transgender people from owning firearms in response to last month's mass shooting at a Minneapolis Catholic church, the National Rifle Association said Friday it will oppose any blanket rule that limits Second Amendment rights.

Their declaration comes after CNN and other outlets reported that Justice Department leadership is considering whether it can use its rulemaking authority declare that people who are transgender are mentally ill and can lose their rights to possess firearms.

"The NRA supports the Second Amendment rights of all law abiding Americans to purchase, possess and use firearms," the organization said in a social media post."NRA does not, and will not, support any policy proposals that implement sweeping gun bans that arbitrarily strip law-abiding citizens of their Second Amendment rights without due process."


This^^^^You may not like certain people, but stripping their 2A rights over this would be unconstitutional.

Imagine if the Prez and DOJ said that black people shouldn't be allowed to purchase or possess guns because they are black. That wouldn't go over well. And this is the same thing IMO.
 
I agree. Taking away the rights of ANY group is a bad thing.
So is taking away the rights of people because of things they have not done but someone thinks they might do (red flag laws).
 
"Shall not be infringed"

That's either the standard, or it's not. The only legitimate suspension of a recognized right comes after individual due process.

What we do with crazy and dangerous people is a different discussion, and letting them not only run amok among us, but promoting their illness as 'normal' and 'acceptable' is NOT the answer.
 
Not really surprised the DOJ is considering banning a class of citizens from buying or owning firearms. AG Pam Bondi is a fan of red flag laws, which can be used to strip citizens of their 2A rights without so much as a hearing.
 
The entire premise of this makes zero sense and here is that slippery slope you all worry about.
You are 100%, exactly right....

When someone can randomly decide that someone is mentally ill because they don't conform to a "standard" and then deny them their constitutional rights because of that, then that's going to be a big no from me...Slippery slope doesn't even begin to describe that.

Reminds me of that scene in Magnum Force, where Harry tells Lieutenant Briggs about his vigilante cops and their judgement on who to kill next; "Pretty soon, you're executing your neighbor for their dog pissing on your lawn".
 
Allen West opinion on the matter
"Demons don't get guns in America"…sounds incredibly good, but who precisely defines "demon?"

There's no real way to argue that this most recent shooter was experiencing a prolonged episode of psychosis. I have seen his video and as a healthcare professional my first thought was "this dude is in the midst of a severe mental health crisis". Tones of voice, thought patterns, obscessive preparation and conflicting, trendy priorities mirroring social media trends…his brain was melting in real time. And if any of the people who sold him those weapons had seen those videos, the responsible thing to do would have been to no-sell and call the police. But that's the insidious thing about mental illness. It's entirely possible to mask it for a long time. To look normal and act normal and healthy and perform friendly good social interactions. And no one else knows, until they get shown. Are we to assume that everyone is crazy?

This guy has issues, yes. But if they don't identify, and don't ask for help, there's no way to intervene with "the law" on a targeted basis. Even the whole "trans ban" is meaningless if they check "male" and just use and accept their birth name instead on legal documents. What are you going to do, send the Secret Weiner Police to investigate the public to make sure thigh-highs never go with boxers and that everyone is wearing government-approved "gender-appropriate" underwear?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top