Odd Pre Model 10

[gjamison]

Picked this up yesterday because I have a soft spot in my heart for the Model of 1905, .38 Military & Police, Pre model 10 and eventually the Model 10. Now the odd thing about this revolver is, it has a single line address, C prefix serial number and short throw speed hammer. I've asked Mr Jinks for a shipping date and C7827 was shipped in June 1948. It serial numbers in all the right places except the stocks. I'm thinking this was a left over frame from during the war maybe?

 

[Wiregrassguy]

Well, the 4 line stamp was implemented in April and your gun shipped in June. I suspect it was omitted in the transition.

 

[gjamison]

Well, the 4 line stamp was implemented in April and your gun shipped in June. I suspect it was omitted in the transition.[/

I assumed, but wanted the experts to chime in. Thanks for the info.

 

[murphydog]

Our local resident K frame expert JP@AK noted in a previous post that the late one-line address .38 M & Ps were seen early into the C prefix guns. He should be along shortly to confirm.

 

[JP@AK]

Hi gjamison

No, it isn't "a left over frame from during the war." There apparently were some of those, but most, if not all, of them were shipped in 1946. By the time your revolver shipped, more than 200,000 M&P units had been assembled since the war ended.

We have recorded several with the C prefix serial numbers that still had the one line address. The highest serial number located so far is C8583, which shipped in July, 1948. The first C prefix unit was assembled on March 22, 1948, before the change to the four line address. Clearly a fair number went into the vault before the additional lines were added to the right side of the frame. I'm sure more of them will show up in the future. We can estimate that there were somewhere around 9,000 of them produced.

One question about yours: Are there patent dates on the top of the barrel? Some of the very early C prefix M&Ps were assembled with barrels that had patent dates. The practice was discontinued on barrels forged sometime in 1948. I have never found an S prefix M&P without patent dates, but some C prefix units did have them. All of those carry relatively low serial numbers.

 

[gjamison]

Hi gjamison

No, it isn't "a left over frame from during the war." There apparently were some of those, but most, if not all, of them were shipped in 1946. By the time your revolver shipped, more than 200,000 M&P units had been assembled since the war ended.

We have recorded several with the C prefix serial numbers that still had the one line address. The highest serial number located so far is C8583, which shipped in July, 1948. The first C prefix unit was assembled on March 22, 1948, before the change to the four line address. Clearly a fair number went into the vault before the additional lines were added to the right side of the frame. I'm sure more of them will show up in the future. We can estimate that there were somewhere around 9,000 of them produced.

One question about yours: Are there patent dates on the top of the barrel? Some of the very early C prefix M&Ps were assembled with barrels that had patent dates. The practice was discontinued on barrels forged sometime in 1948. I have never found an S prefix M&P without patent dates, but some C prefix units did have them. All of those carry relatively low serial numbers.

Thank you for the information. Unfortunately there are no patent date on the top of the barrel.