Ok, which gun mfg is going to be next to make the 1911?

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scooter123 posted about the new Ruger 1911 and asked for comments and he got mostly good replies.

Just how many gun mfg make the 1911 and how many are there left to make the darn thing? Will Kal Tec or American Arms be next? Will Winchester awake from the dead and start making a lever action 1911??:confused::eek:

BTW, I might get one of those Ruger 1911's, price is right.

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I think Michael Bane said in the video, that there were 45 makers of the 1911...............who is left , that is even still in business??
( I know, Glock, Benelli, for two.......):rolleyes:
 
I have a feeling that the Beretta 92 is shaping up to be the next 1911. Two or three generations have used it in the military. My nephew, a Marine now for six years has never shot a 1911.
 
Glock will never make one cause they'd have to market it as the "best Glock ever" and admit what we all knew all along........hehehehehehahahahahahahahaha
 
who cares whats your point hopefully everyone makes a 1911 and we do away with 3000 dollar 1911s.i love them if its to much for you dont look.
 
Kel Tec: an all plastic 1911, made in two pieces with screws holding the left and right side of the frame together. I weighs only 7 oz! Expected service life of 30 rounds.

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curtmini14,may be on to something, as we see a few guys who spent them BIG BUCKS on some of them Baers or Wilsons and are getting a run for their money ( or can we say out shot) by some of this outta the box stuff these days, .......) I know , I know, its all in the hands of the shooter, how well I know as I watched one of the local officers here shoot a "fixed" sight Ruger 22 4 3/4 inch, in a match and shot a 295 out of 300,soooooooooooooo................all that "extra" money spent is possibly "feel good" money...its GOTTA shoot better, I spent a LOT for it.!! :rolleyes:
 
I own or have owned a lot of 1911's from various makers and while the new out of the box Ruger's and others may be very nice I still like the Les Baer for when I want the most accurate 1911 I can lay hands on.
I'm lucky to have several guns that are exceptionally accurate, 3 of them are Colt's that have been worked over.
Still, for the money the Ruger seems like one of the best dollar values out there. They've provided alot of gun for the $799 suggested retail and it more than competes with everything anywhere near it's price.
 
I have owned several 1911's over the years mostly Colts, Springfield and S&W's. I think I may have bought a Norinco back in the day. My favorite one is a blue series 70 I bought at the Ft. Benning rod and gun for $125.00 back in 1979 or 80.

I never bought a high end one, and while I worked at Shooter's I saw a lot of guys buy Kimbers and send them back for work. I know a few guys who bought Wilson guns and were very happy with them.

I looked at the new SA Range officer the other day and it seemed well put together.
 
A few thoughts for opinions.

I have a few customs (although they are not custom made for me but rather made by custom makers). Are they better because they carry a well known name, because they cost more or is owning one a status symbol?

Comparing the 1911 of today by any of the makers (Colt, S&W. Remington, Clark, Baer, etc) with those made back in their beginning will show vast improvement. The 1911 made last year by any maker will likely be improved over what they did 15 yrs ago. I know for a fact S&W is building as good of a 1911 as anyone today. If anyone has a Remington 1911 from the early yrs will compare it to one of the modern guns, they will see a major difference in fit, finish, quality and lots more. I looked at a used Remington yesterday that would pass for new and may go back and get it this week for $675.

Has the 1911 changed so much it should not be a 1911? They come in about every handgun caliber there is out there. They have barrel lengths ranging from what could be called snub nose to scoped long slides that almost need a pickup truck to carry one in. Am I being a purist by thinking a 1911 needs to be 5" barrel and in .45acp just as they were when they became so popular and dependable?
 
A few thoughts for opinions.

I have a few customs (although they are not custom made for me but rather made by custom makers). Are they better because they carry a well known name, because they cost more or is owning one a status symbol?

Comparing the 1911 of today by any of the makers (Colt, S&W. Remington, Clark, Baer, etc) with those made back in their beginning will show vast improvement. The 1911 made last year by any maker will likely be improved over what they did 15 yrs ago. I know for a fact S&W is building as good of a 1911 as anyone today. If anyone has a Remington 1911 from the early yrs will compare it to one of the modern guns, they will see a major difference in fit, finish, quality and lots more. I looked at a used Remington yesterday that would pass for new and may go back and get it this week for $675.


Has the 1911 changed so much it should not be a 1911? They come in about every handgun caliber there is out there. They have barrel lengths ranging from what could be called snub nose to scoped long slides that almost need a pickup truck to carry one in. Am I being a purist by thinking a 1911 needs to be 5" barrel and in .45acp just as they were when they became so popular and dependable?

Well, here's an opinion I will throw out (which others may well throw back at me :)

Maybe '15 years ago,' but not 30+ years ago IMO. I have owned / worked with many real 1911's and shot more than a few imitations (none $1,000 ones let alone $3,000) and the 'real' ones from the 70's were heads and shoulders above today's offerings for quality of, if nothing else, the steel. They could be polished/burnished to mirror finish thru-out their forged pieces from slide to frame to whatever and would therefore empty a magazine in unbelievable short order with any bullet w/o problems. That includes the pre Gold cup National Match (that did not 'shoot off' the rear sight) and was hand-fit at a bench at prices much less than the $3,000.00 'customs' currently offered, and some of the currently 'famed send-backs' that became so popular that they often slip thru quality control.

Some competitive shooters have had good luck with current 1911 imitations and justifiably perhaps touted them; but I wonder how many of them have had the privilege of shooting the older ones when craftsmanship - from the steel we made to the integrity of build - still meant something. (Perhaps they were over-built like the 'real' Cadillac cars of yesteryear? :) I don't remember ever seeing an older 45 coming with a 'recommended break in period' either. IMO, that in itself is more of a caveat / excuse than a sign of assured manufacturing.

True, now they are mostly all 'good.' But I see that as simply being in comparison to their 'contemporaries;' i.e. their own group of 'equal lessers.' But 'better? Having greater and more consistent potential from gun to gun? Not IMO.

And yes, I agree with you that the barrel should be the same as (when you yourself say) they were so popular and dependable. And no, nothing is 'better simply' because it costs more. (IMO of course :)
 

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