Okay, Kiddies, Time For Learning

[DCW]

I'll admit to these being less-than-desirable images but I just acquired this a couple of days ago and haven't gotten to a complete teardown and clean, anyway, after which I'll subject them to far better photographic conditions.

In the meantime, I thought it'd be fun for folks to take a look and try to ascertain, based on available information, the nature of this firearm.

Yes, I do have the original box and label, but seeing you all twist in the wind is just such fun!

Three obvious, expected marks found on the right side: Frame, above trigger, "Performance Center" Logo; "LPA" on right side of adjustable sight; and, the ubiquitous Smith & Wesson marque and logo on the wrapped grip.

Three obvious, expected marks found on left side: Frame, beneath stop, serial number "PCZ0116"; on the slide, just above slide stop cutout; and, the ubiquitous Smith & Wesson marque and logo on the wrapped grip.

Later.

 

[armorer951]

PPC9....... prototype??

 

[03Fatboy]

Stocking Dealer (SD), 9, 356TSW or 40?

 

[raljr1]

AK 47 Automatic Assault Weapon

 

[mozeppa]

smith & wesson model 52

.38 master

 

[mozeppa]

do i win it?

please?!

 

[TNZ71]

Stocking Dealer (SD), 9, 356TSW or 40?

What I was thinking PC .356 TSW

 

[scooter123]

Well the lack of any safety or hammer spur indicates that this is a DAO semi. Then there is the finish, to my eye that appears to be a Stainless Steel pistol, not a nickel plated on. Finally the rounded trigger guard to me indicates that this is a 4th generation S&W. So I believe that what you have here is a model 5946 Target and was probably a Custom Shop special variant of the RCMP Service pistol with a longer barrel and slide.

BTW, the above was pretty much a guess assisted by some poking around the Net. About the only S&W I am at all familiar with is my Brother in Law's model 59 that this particular pistol would look a lot like if it were blued and had nearly invisible minuscule sights.

 

[vigil617]

I think only special order guns came DAO from the Performance Center in the 5" barrel length, and since this has the PCZ prefix indicating a likely one-off gun, it must be that this was something unusual. The combination of barrel length, full size grip, uncommon magazine base, bobbed hammer, and LPA sight make for a really mysterious gun. Not knowing the caliber, it could be just about anything.

Must be a project by one of the Performance Center craftsmen using an assortment of parts into a model that, for whatever reason, the PC decided not to produce. I got nothin' as far as a guess what it is...

 

[Sevens]

There is one marking that should be present that you didn't offer as info-- caliber marking on the barrel hood visible through ejection port in the slide.

I would guess that it says "9mm Performance" and the pistol looks just like the 5" PPC-9 that was built in two different variations. This one with the square muzzle (that does look similar to the Stocking Dealer guns) seems to be the rarer of the two.

I cannot solve the obvious DAO configuration however, and my only guess is that it was shipped as a typical PPC-9 and later made in to a DAO by the PC. The odd hammer and lack of any hammer block thumb safety certainly makes the argument that it is DAO configured... which I don't mind saying that I find simply ludicrous, more so if you are familiar with exactly the kind of amazing single action trigger break that PC guns tend to have.

 

[jake1945]

Have you called S&W and inquiered about it?

 

[rwt1405]

Have you called S&W and inquiered about it?

He said he has the original box and label, so he has no need to call.

He's attempting to "school" us.

 

[vigil617]

He's attempting to "school" us.

And the sooner the better, 'cause I for one am spending way too much time thinking about this...

 

[03Fatboy]

And the sooner the better, 'cause I for one am spending way too much time thinking about this...

I keep coming back to this thread hoping to see the update too.

Come on DCW, show us the label or tell us!

 

[DCW]

School's In, For Everyone

He said he has the original box and label, so he has no need to call.

He's attempting to "school" us.

In all honesty, this forum has a great bunch of people who are deeply interested in things S&W.

The reason I didn't, or haven't yet trotted out the label is because I didn't wish to, um, prejudice anyone and force them into a direction that may not lead to a productive answer.

Even though I will produce the label today - by popular request (er, "demand?") - I nonetheless seek to be schooled more so than "school."

This 9mm is an odd pistol that has escaped an exacting iD since I started working it Friday.

Later.

 

[R*E]

Definitely an AK 47 as someone guessed earlier. That makes it an evil black rifle and we know that black lives matter.

 

[DCW]

Demand and ye shall receive.

 

[DCW]

And the sooner the better, 'cause I for one am spending way too much time thinking about this...

Okay, here's a little closer look at the label and its associated firearm.

 

[DCW]

Well the lack of any safety or hammer spur indicates that this is a DAO semi. Then there is the finish, to my eye that appears to be a Stainless Steel pistol, not a nickel plated on. Finally the rounded trigger guard to me indicates that this is a 4th generation S&W. So I believe that what you have here is a model 5946 Target and was probably a Custom Shop special variant of the RCMP Service pistol with a longer barrel and slide.

BTW, the above was pretty much a guess assisted by some poking around the Net. About the only S&W I am at all familiar with is my Brother in Law's model 59 that this particular pistol would look a lot like if it were blued and had nearly invisible minuscule sights.

And this one's for scooter, who gave it more than a NTS (Not Too Shabby) one paragraph and gets this closer look (that I would need if not actually here next to me).

 

[DCW]

School's In, For Everyone

PPC9....... prototype??

i'm beginning to wonder the same thing . . . and . . . If only I could be so lucky, eh?