old 586 vs new586

[dey59]

hi all' towards the end of the month I got 3 gun shows coming up i'm trying to find a 586 6 in. my question is whats the difference in the brand new 586 vs the older ones. is there a certain one I should look for. or would I be better off just buying a brand new one $850.00 out the door. and what to look for on a used 586. thanks for the help

 

[dave7v7]

First off you should be able to purchase a New 586 at $699.99 to $739.99 before tax.The new 586 has the key lock and frame mounted firing pin.The grips are quite a bit narrower and the frame has more metal in the hammer area.I am not a fan of hammer mounted firing pins so my vote would go towards the New model.My new M586 shoots excellent and has the best double action pull that i have felt.

 

[bananaman]

To each his own! I have a 586 no dash from 1983. (4") A 686-3, 6" from 1989. I myself just prefer the older guns if the condition is right. I only own 1, I.L. gun. A 625 JM. Love it, but given the choice would have bought an older 1. Bob

 

[dey59]

thank you dave, for the heads up on the grips and the price check if I have to go new i'll want to check that out first hand. I had a 586 before and liked the grips in either stock wood or pachmayer presentation grips. will the older grips fit the new guns? other than the grips it sounds like a great gun. and I agree with you bananaman the older guns just feel good I don't know if its how they're made or just the history.but they are different I have the 17-6,22a-1,625-4 and 29-2. the last one is why i'm considering a new one. got the 29 at a show gun looked great, got it home and 3 of the 6 chambers in the cylinder where bulged out. sent it to smith and Wesson they put in a new cylinder redone the forcing cone and went through and tuned it up. $350.00 later plus shipping I have a beautiful 29-2 that shoots like a dream. thank you for your replies

 

[bluetopper]

I sent $700 off today for a brand new 586 with free shipping. Older ones in real nice condition have been nearly the exact same price. I have many older Smiths but decided not to take a chance on an older one this time. Always regretted selling my 586 no dash I bought new in 1981. The only other IL Smith I've ever owned was a 629-6 and I never had a sweeter functioning one. I sold it though when I bought a Freedom Arms 44 Mag.

 

[dey59]

I know what you mean I traded my 586 for a 27 which I traded for a 29 8in. which I traded for the 29-2 with bulged cyl. should have kept it, but the grass is always greener.

 

[jframejoey]

Went into a local shop today. 4 inch 586-8, 4 inch 29-10 and a 6 1/2 inch 27-9 were all in the low to high $900 range!!! Must be all those shipping charges from 80 miles away in Springfield.

 

[Smith&WessonM629C]

I just brought home today my new 586-8 for $749 out the door. I love everything about it. Everything is super smooth and works great. I don't know how to explain it other than that when I added cartridges to my S&W that it felt better than it did empty. But not weight wise but more solid. Even my Brother who is a big time Taurus fan could not help but stop and admire my new favorite bedside gun.

 

[S&W SS Revolvers]

The 586 and 686 are GREAT! My 686 was built in 1993 or so...it's a tough son of a gun...period. Take care of it and it takes care of you. Unfired for years with an annual cleaning,protecting our home,travels and etc. A couple of months ago the wife and me decided to start shooting again...flawless...and back in service no problem.

 

[dey59]

sounds good. tomorrows the gun show, after a half day of work. I think i'm leaning towards a new one

 

[AlphaSig]

New vs Old

I had to make a similar decision -- a new 586 or a 80's made 686-3, 4" in stainless steel w/ a square butt Goncalo Alves grips. I opted for the vintage (used) 686-3 at $810, got a trigger job by an expert gunsmith, and now I'm good to go- they don't make 'em like that anymore for sure. What a pattern i can shoot w/this S&W ... I don't think you can get a new 586 in stainless or w/a square butt if that matters to you ... i couldn't hold onto the newer round guns ....

 

[Redlegvzv]

Any 586/686 is a great choice.

I agree with some others in this thread in that I like a frame-mounted firing pin. So my vote is go new.

 

[AlphaSig]

Range Pic 686-3 4"

Btw, here's a pic of what that old 686-3 4" did at the range the first time i fired it yesterday ... I think the main thing when you choose a model is how does it feel firing/handling it, then what do you want it to have as far as features? Good luck and take your time choosing ... thanks to Sandy G. for excellent trigger job --- awesome!

Ignore the .44 mags in the head pls -- the center mass is from the 686

 

[Matt Hooper]

Jframejoey- Check out Guns and Gear in Agawam. They have. 4" 586 for around $740

 

[dey59]

nice shooting, I really like the old one's but finding one in good condition at a decent price is gonna be the trick. I like the idea of a new one cause i'll know what i'm getting. but the older one's are just better. whats the pro an cons on this firing pin deal. thanks guys

 

[dave7v7]

The New 586 Classic series is a SQUARE but frame so all previous designed grips for the older Revolvers will fit exactly the same.As far as Hammer mounted vs Frame mounted Firing pins?The Hammer mounted pins have a tendency to need replacing with heavy use and they do not hold up to Dry firing.The mechanisms in the Frame mounted models contain a transfer bar that is far superior in safety and function not to mention you get less carbon build up in the hammer area.Make sure you inspect the New 586 for correct alignment of the barrel to the frame there are a few out there that left the factory canted to one side.thats about all that could be wrong with a new one.The great thing about buying a new S&W they will make it right no matter what and pay both ends of shipping.

 

[Mark6005]

Can't seem to find a 586 around here new or old. I'm enjoying my new 686 4 inch for $635 a month ago. Still looking for a 586. A gap to fill ya know

 

[dey59]

thanks dave love the square butt not so much the round butt. great info on the firing pin thank you. the new one really sounds like the way to go. I know what you mean mark I've found a $900.00 used one that I wouldn't use as a hammer let alone shoot, and the $850.00 new one. I just can't get in a hurry.

 

[nossew]

With a round butt you can always get "round to square" grips.

Transfer bar is a Ruger thing.

 

[dey59]

well just got back from the gun show, no 586 new or old i'm gonna call a few places in Wichita and see what I can find.