Old Houses

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Our climate and general thinking in this country means that houses are not meant to last for over 100 years. 50 - 60 years and they tend to get torn down and new houses built. Some of that is due to the use of untreated timber in the past, some urban renewal in the 70's that saw n o value in older homes.

Some, like the one I live in, survive. One of the issues of living in such a house is that previous building work is often not up to what is now considered "code".

Our house was built in the early to mid 1890's. It was originally of "shotgun shack" construction. The north facing front door opens into a short hallway. Bedroom off to the right, living room to the left. At the end of the hallway it opens up into the original kitchen/dining room with second bedroom off to the left and original back door directly opposite the hallway.

The house was originally a Salvation Army office for the town before being sold off as a residence. Sometime in the 1940's a kitchen/laundry was attached to the rear, accessed through the original back door. A shower was added to the laundry and a toilet/handbasin, accessed directly off the kitchen put in. The old coal/wood stove was taken out of the original dining room and a fireplace added.

In the late 50's the then owner added a sunroom to the front on the east side of the house accessed through the living room. A deck area was added under the front "verandah" at some time.

My wife and her late husband bought the property in 1979. A full bathroom was added accessed through the laundry and a deck built down the west side of the house. French doors were added to the bedrooms and dining room (plus the bathroom when built). The dining room fireplace was removed and the house was redecorated inside with the original sarking wall coverings being relined.

My stepson's father passed away in early 1997. My wife and I met later that year after I moved to the town. (Interestingly her late husband spent 35 years in the town and rural area as the local road policing enforcement officer before his retirement on health grounds and subsequent death). Over Christmas 1997 her family helped paint the outside of the house, but it was a rushed job and the prep work was not that great.

I left the town for 2 1/2 years at the end of 2000, and my wife and stepson came with me. When we returned in 2003 we moved into her house together. Since then I have built a rear deck for summer, refloored the front deck, rebuilt and updated both the kitchen and bathroom and redecorated most of the other rooms. During these renovations the earlier mentioned "code compliance" issues arose. I quickly learnt that no project is going to be straightforward, there will always be some shortcut previously taken needing to be upgraded.

About 5 years ago I started on preparing the outside of the house to be properly repainted. I replaced several of the old weatherboard cladding boards that were showing signs of rot. Interestingly, with the exception of two original weatherboards boards on the south side of the house which gets no sun in winter, all the other replacement boards were on the more "modern" alterations.

My wife's illness put a stop to the exterior work before I could get too far, but now she is recovering from her transplant we are preparing for the exterior to be painted after the winter. So I have resumed my external work.

After replacing the remaining defective cladding I found one of the front verandah posts was rotting at the base. I bought a short treated foundation post, cut it to length and had a local building company profile it to match the old post. After installing the new post bottom, and a whole new support post under the corner of an old roofed section at the rear under which I built the 'summer' deck, I had some decorative framing made up to go around the base, and decided to replace the same framing at the base of the remaining front verandah post.

Today I was installing the decorative framing. When I went to take the old framing off what I believed was the 'good' front verandah post I found that it too had developed some timber rot at the base.

Luckily it is not so bad that I need to rebase the post. I was able to cut out the soft timber and after it dries out I will fill it and sand it back.

But old houses! It seems the work will never end and there will always be something more to do!
 

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For 32 years my wife, kids and I lived in an old farm house that was built in 1879 with Civil War enlistment bonus money. (The original cabin on the farm was still standing in the 1960's when the school bus I rode would drive by!) We closed on the deal in March 1984. My best friend and brother helped me remodel and we moved in in August 84! I had already helped my brother in 1973 and have helped my best friend re-do 2 homes since then.

I did maintenance for a living and have a pretty good idea what parts and how long a job should take! But on old houses, a job is estimated by how many extra trips to the supply houses it will take! So any job wasn't "Rated" as hard or simple, until after it was finished!

As an example; The 1950 slapped on bathroom toilet wad on a Lead Bend and that gave out in 2012. I was recovering from a stroke so I hired it done. When the plumbing crew of 2 was done with the job in 1 1/2 hours, they were amazed! I'd had piles of lumber already on hand to rebuild the floor and below. I had been there doing repairs 10 or 12 years before, so access openings were already in place (sometimes, it takes 2 or 3 hours just to get into an area to work!) The crew thought they would be 1 1/2 to 2 days on that job and didn't have anything else scheduled! I even had the floor retiled by the time the wife got home from work. (it took me what felt like forever, but was about 2 hours- for a job that should be 45 minutes max!, but that was because I was recovering.)

I find it funny, when someone asks me how to do a small project. I tell them how to prevent several problems in advance. They ignore the advise and then have to make several trips for more supplies!

Ivan
 
But old houses! It seems the work will never end and there will always be something more to do!
Amen. Google Street View captured my late mom in front of her 1930's vintage home. In preparation for sale, Hubby and I have been repairing it since 4/3.


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I have always lived in 50+ yr. old houses. When I retired we moved to a 9 yr. old house. I have to say I'm really enjoying the "new house" experience:
Lots of electrical outlets,
GFI's already installed,
Good roof,
Dry basement,
Closets,
Concrete driveway,
9 yr. old HVAC instead of 25 yr old,
Buried electrical lines so no outages due to tree limbs,
3 car garage,
No mortgage.

However the new neighborhood doesn't have as much charm and the largest tree is about 6" in diameter, but I'm coping.
 
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I understand. I had owned a 1860's brick farm house (that the town grew around), for 28 years. It had been gutted and a front addition for a half bath down and a full bath up added in the 50's by an architect that lived there, and he did upgrade the electrical and plumbing (mostly). I said mostly because when I was attempting to add a ceiling fan and light on a small back screened in porch I discovered the service in that area was knob & tube. There seemed to always something needing fixed, and that and a half acre of yard with a dozen gardens are partially why we are now in a condo.
 
I've only owned 2 houses in my life, and I was the first owner on both of them. I don't consider myself very handy and when I was commuting to work I wouldn't have the time or energy to do much in the way of home repairs. Luckily both places have been pretty well built.

I watched a lot of the home renovation shows on HGTV and I am really glad that I had my places built new by reputable contractors.
 
Our house was built in 1900 and I think has been an ongoing project for someone for pretty much it's whole period of existence. I know the wife and I have put a lot of time, effort and money into it since we got it in the early 90's. I'm at the age now where I really think a smaller place with less maintenance issues would be nice. Probably too invested to move though (and I shudder when I think about all the headaches of packing and unpacking!!) so not likely to go anywhere any time soon. And there are advantages to familiarity too.
 
The house I have owned for the past 42 years was built in 1905. I have entirely renovated the place with all new wiring, plumbing, windows, Etc.
Keeping a old house in livable condition is a 365/24/7 job but I wouldn't have it any other way. Then there's the cost, I cringe every time I look at the records of expenditure I keep because the amount spend to date would buy a new house even in todays market. Just last month it was time for a new furnace and AC unit to the tune of 10,000 bucks.
 
The state of California once employed a three person painting crew (they may still) whose job was to paint the Golden Gate Bridge. They started at one end and slowly worked to the other, then back on the opposite side. It took many years to completely paint the bridge. When they got to the end they started again.

Old houses are kind of like that. If you are lucky you start at one end and work your way to the other before something critical goes permanent bad-order. The job does not end. Sometimes it is like looking up at the Golden Gate Bridge.
 
Very interesting! I would really enjoy seeing some pics of the entire house.

We have lived in this house for 40 years. It was 5 years old when we bought it. Total overhaul/remodel in 1994 and again in 2015. I have long since lost track of the number of air conditioners, furnaces, water heaters, garbage disposals, dishwashers, all kitchen appliances and I don't know whatall. Have re-roofed 3 times and built the deck off the back of the house 3 times

As the OP so accurately stated there is always, ALWAYS, something that needs doing. I just chalk that all up to the joys of home ownership. :rolleyes:
 
We have been in our house almost 48 years. Two major additions that we did mostly ourselves. My problem now days is I have the knowledge in skills to do most anything that needs doing but my old body can't keep up.:mad: I had to pay someone to install new heat and AC last year. The one I had installed myself only lasted 30 years. I'm sure the new one will outlast me but it will never go 30 years. I may not die in this house but it will still be my mailing address when I go.
 
My first house was built in 1882, bought it when I was 23. It was massive with super tall ceilings, 2 stairways, real hardwood floors, huge pocket doors, stained glass, fireplace in every room except the kitchen on the first floor, wood molding around every door and window that was at least 8" wide.

Had a parlor, living room, dining room, kitchen, plus a added on 1/2 bath on the first floor, and the second floor was just 3 huge bedrooms and a full bath. Each bedroom had a opening glass transom above the door. The attic had a finished room that ran almost the length of the house. The basement had 3 rooms and a full bath.

The bad... all the molding had countless layers of paint, the furnace was originally coal converted to gas. The plumbing was 1/2 cast iron that had so much rust in it, some faucets would just trickle water. The house had 3 fuse boxes that Bubba would be embarrassed to admit he'd done. I found lots of old cloth covered wire, the attic wiring was the original that ran along the wall separated by little ceramic knob looking things.

Lived there and fixed stuff for 8 years, and sold it for well over double what I paid for it.

House I'm in now I had built in 2004. It could never have the character my first house did, but I love low maintenance.

My first house.

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...my wife and her sister inherited their mother's house last year...

...when the transfer of ownership was complete...we drove up to the courthouse to pick up the deed...

...then we drove by the house and received a surprise...

...the 35 year old furnace had given up...
 
When we lived in the Washington DC area, we had a seasonal campsight out here in the eastern panhandle of West Virgina. After work on Fridays, we'd jump in the car and head for the mountains for the weekend.
One day, we decided to check out the little town of Paw Paw. There was a house for sale and it's street number was the same as our campsite number. We had been saving up to but a house.
Then 9-11 happened. My wife was working across the street for the Pentagon in Crystal City. After I dropped her off in a big cloud of smoke coming off the Pentagon the next day, we decided to call the realtor.
My wife has a degree in business administration and accounting and said, "if it's under $50,000 we can swing it right now." I thought, "yeah right, a solidly built brick house for under $50,000." The realtor said, "$49,900."

The next month we had a new address in a solidly built brick house in the eastern panhandle of West Virginia.
Now it's all paid for.

You can see my cigar smoking porch and 2 of our big maple trees. Hmm, looks like the grass could use cuttin'. That's our truck parked around the back.

It was built in 1949. That was before the C&O Canal became a national park. When you go into our basement and look up, you can see lotsa reclaimed lumber. Probably from lock houses and other structures along the canal. We have oil heat that was installed in 1960 and I've spent lotsa time down there taking it apart and fixin' it. Both the oil pump motor and blower motor have been replaced.
It has solid oak floors, door trim and the kitchen cabinets are all custom built of solid oak. Glass door knobs with brass escutcheons and mortice door locks.
The interior walls are old fashioned plaster and I've broken masonry bits drilling holes to hang pictures.
Anyway, best move we ever made. It's beautiful out here.
 
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