old school drop pouch, placement

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hi guys , i am assembling a old school revolver rig.
[ I'll look good on the shooting range,] holster, sam brown belt
and drop pouch , I am right-handed
which side do I place my drop pouch and cuff case ??
please post, many thanks,


old school drop pouch, placement
 
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Sergeant Friday and his partner both carried their dump pouches on their
right side. They carried there guns & holsters on the left side for crossdraw.
 
NYPD loaded from the strong side, whether it was speed loaders or dump pouch. Switch gun to weak hand, Thumb cylinder open with strong hand, then barrel up and whack the ejector rod with strong hand, cradle cylinder open in weak hand and unsnap the pouch with strong hand, letting loose rounds fall into your strong hand to reload.

Some guys did it slightly different. Keep gun in right hand, thumb cylinder with right thumb. Point barrel up and use right thumb to eject cases while kind of snapping the gun downwards to aid in clearance, but once it was empty always a switch to weak hand to use strong hand to reload. I don't know how left handed shooters dealt with the cylinder latch being on the wrong side for them. Probably used their index finger.
 
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As a lefty/southpaw, I carried my original dump pouches (and later the HKS speed loaders) on my strong side (left) just to the left of my buckle. On a reload with the Model 64, I'd punch the cylinder release forward with my trigger finger and as I transitioned the gun to my right hand my right thumb would simultaneously punch and hold the cylinder out and open, while inverting the 64 and hitting the ejection rod with my left palm. Once the gun was empty, my left hand grabbed the loose rounds or the speed loader and reloaded. Cylinder closed with the left hand and the gun transitioned back to my left hand.
Always carried two sets of handcuffs- one set was on the right side, just to the right of the buckle and the other at 4/5 o'clock on the right side. I usually tried to cuff with the right hand, but the set next to my centerline could be accessed with either strong or support hand.
 
Strong side…

…in front of holster for whatever type belt reload carrier,. Makes no difference if drop pouch, speedloader carrier(s), or any other type belt carrier.

Handcuffs strong side, behind the holster.

Hope this is useful.

Be safe.
 
Dump pouches or speedloaders are strong side in front of holster. Handcuff case was over left rear pocket. One flex cuff in hat.

Auto pistol mag case was carried on weak side sideways over front pocket. Many may disagree over the sideways carry. Mine was positioned to pull the mags out towards the rear.
 
Take a tip from a real pro:

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As a southpaw my double-dump pouch was strong side in front of the holster. Cuff case & baton ring (holder) carried on the opposite (right) side of my belt. Our duty belt carried a lot less than today's officers are required to have.
 
hi , guys , I looked at alot of vintage in the day photos and then decide to ask the pros, also I must concede with dept policy at the time of issue.
 
I carried my dump pouch on the right side at the front of my duty belt.It allowed the rounds to fall into my right hand while I held my revolver in my left hand to load.I didn't carry a cuff case and carried my cuffs in the small of my back with one side tucked in the back of my belt and the other hanging free on the outside of the belt.
 
In the days when we used dump pouches, I don't think that much thought was given to tactical reloads and such.

Adam-12 accurately portrayed how LAPD set up their Sam Browne belts. A right hander had the holster on the right, and starting at the buckle as 12 o'clock and going counter-clockwise from the wearer's perspective, the dump pouches were first, then the night stick ring, then the key ring, then the handcuff pouch.

Our state patrol here in Missouri used the same set up.

That said, at some point, some agencies got wise to the need to have the loose ammo convenient to the dominant hand for dexterity.

Therefore, NYPD changed at some point to the dump pouch in front of the holster on the stong side (between the holster and the buckle of the belt), which makes the most sense.

This allows the shooter to transfer the revolver to the weak hand as the cylinder is swung out, then the weak hand turns the revolver up and ejects the spent cases while the strong hand unsnaps the dump pouch letting the spare rounds fall into the strong hand (usually). Then that strong hand, which is the hand with dexterity, fumbles the six cartridges and often gets them all in the charge holes without dropping any. LOL

I think sigp220.45 has it right. The spare shells ought to be on the right side in front of the holster (assuming you are a right hander).

I believe sigp220.45 is retired from the Bureau and I am certain he remembers the Bucheimer holster and the 2x2x2 ammo carrier for the Model 13s with 3 inch barrels, which agents (at least the ones I knew) carried in front of the holster on the right side.

Later, Bucheimer made a version that actually had the 2x2x2 attached to the holster to make sure folks carried the spare ammo rather than leaving the 2x2x2 in the desk drawer. :)

As an aside, Gene Desantis still makes a holster similar to the old Bucheimer with 2x2x2 carrier attached, but only for the J frame, not the K frame.

Long answer for a simple question. Sorry. :)
 
I'm right handed and I've always carried the dump pouch or speedloader on my right side in front of the holster. When I started in '97 that's how the old guys I knew told me to do it, and it's always worked for me.
 
Never carried dump pouches but did use speed loaders. I am right handed and the tail of my belt extended from the buckle towards my holster. Speedloaders were placed just left of the buckle, easy retrieval for my strong hand and my cuff case was and still is over my left pocket and positioned in the cuff case where the swinging arm was in position for a quick placement and the double locks would end up in the upper side of the cuffs towards the elbows
 
I never considered carrying my speed strip loops or speed loader pouches anywhere but the strong side. I don't recall any of our officers carrying them anywhere else. Strong side was required on the USBP when I was with that outfit. Still, whatever works for you is what you need to do.

As the OP can see, whichever side he chooses for his dump pouches will be correct.
 
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Fans of The Walking Dead might remember Rick Grimes carrying his speed loaders on his weak side. I never saw him use them once. I would imagine the guy who decided to do that was the same guy who had a 4 inch open bottom holster being used with a 6 inch Python, totally exposing the front sight and exposing the front 2" of the barrel!
 

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