On a serious note...

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Just had an interesting interaction with some people I mentioned in an earlier post in another thread. I thought better of derailing that discussion with this post and opted for a new thread.

Here is the link from the earlier post.
OSBI investigating fatal shooting in Colbert

The original thread: http://smith-wessonforum.com/lounge/459106-update-thug-shot-guy-who-open-carrying-thug-not-feeling-too-well.html#post138903268

This couple are very much like I envision many of us here on this board, working class, God fearing, law abiding, pro 2A, 60ish in age , likely someone's grandparents, and licensed to carry

Meeting this couple gives me pause and makes my heart go out to these people. The woman in the story saved her husband's life by the lawful use of deadly force against a violent attacker. Firing one well placed shot from a S&W Model 629 ended the attack, but began another nightmare.

They are very fine people and very much understanding of the fact that initially they were treated as suspects by responding law enforcement officers. The lady even remarked that she recalled from her concealed carry training to expect to be jailed if you have to shoot someone. The woman also remarked to me that remembering her concealed carry training she made sure to put the gun down and make her hands very visible to the responding officers. I can imagine that somewhere out there is a very proud instructor.

The woman wasn't jailed, but instead was flown to a hospital for injuries she sustained in the incident. The husband was cuffed and detained for a bit while the initial confusion was sorted out. Even so, they had nothing but nice things to say about how they were treated by law enforcement.

My heart very much goes out to this couple, especially the woman who had the very unpleasant chore of shooting and killing a crazed person locked in a life and death struggle with the man she loves. The poor woman is clearly struggling with the events of that night and her actions, no matter how correct and lawful they may have been.

Many assurances to her by friends, family, and well-meaning strangers, such as myself, and the fact that she was found by a prosecutor to have been justified, do little to assuage her feelings of having been the victim of a violent crime. The experience has left the woman shattered, vulnerable and fearful.

I guess I say all that to remind us all that when an armed citizen has to use deadly force, we need to be mindful that this person is a victim and be sensitive of it.
 
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Ok, that was a little too serious and a bit rambling. Wrote it not long after seeing those people involved.

I'll lighten it up a bit and say I saw the gun. A really sweet 629 Mountain gun. The tapered barrel on a big frame Smith always strikes me as quite elegant. :D
 
Thanks for posting this and reminding us of the after effects of using deadly force. Most don't think past successfully surviving the encounter. I had to take a life as an LEO in 1974 and can assure you this is a life altering event. My heart goes out to this couple.
 
A serious note well taken. When I speak on firearms and carry rights I worry the people don't fully understand all the after effects of use of deadly. The legal aspects and monetary effects can be small to the emotional.

Right to bear arms is OUR right but it carries great responsibilities.
 
First I've never shot anybody.

Second I'm a little odd and a lot of emotional things that effect others has very little effect on me.

As far as guns go I used to agree with the notion of "I hope I never have to use it!" but then I thought about it and realized that such an attitude may very leave you pausing when you should be shooting straight.

So now I have this attitude about it....

It's up to fate if I should get into a gun fight/shooting,I'll do my best to avoid it but if it happens then I'll deal with the cards dealt me.

All responsibility,all after effects are on the person who decides to use a weapon on me;Once they cross that line then I have no emotion or remorse about them or what happens-they chose this path so they have to walk it,I leave it when the shooting stops,if they're no longer a part of the living world so be it,if I'M no longer a part of the living world so be it.
 
Kronos,
Your first sentence says that the rest of what I'm going to say is speculation. Saying I will, will not, am going to do this or do that and I'm going to feel this way and act this way is only what you think you will do. Wait until you have actually been involved in a shooting to find out what really goes on inside your head and how you react.
I have been in a shooting and my reactions and thoughts and emotions were not at all what I thought they were going to be.
Gary
 
Kronos,
Your first sentence says that the rest of what I'm going to say is speculation. Saying I will, will not, am going to do this or do that and I'm going to feel this way and act this way is only what you think you will do. Wait until you have actually been involved in a shooting to find out what really goes on inside your head and how you react.
I have been in a shooting and my reactions and thoughts and emotions were not at all what I thought they were going to be.
Gary
This^^^^^^^^^^^

We buy, train, practice and plan for what we hope will never come to pass. We like to talk about what we would or wouldn't do in a bad situation. God forbid it happen, but I feel sure any situation that would cause you to pull the trigger would be a situation completely different than what you may have imagined it would be. Bless those that are having to deal with it.
 
I read some where, can't remember the name, " with great power comes great responsibility"
We carry that power every day. I do not take it lightly.
I feel for that woman, that said, she should consider this, her and her loved one are alive and mostly unharmed. She is a hero in my book. God bless her.
 
If I were faced with the same situation I would certainly welcome that woman standing beside me. I pray I would have the presence of mind to do the same thing to save a loved ones life or my own. Hope I never have to find out.
 
Thanks all. Interestingly, the subsequent posts have been, by and large, from Texas. The people in this story are Texans as well.

When I learned that I would be running into this couple, I remember saying something glib to the effect, "I want to shake that lady's hand !".

Well I did shake her hand, but I really wasn't prepared for what I found in her. There certainly were no high fives.

Besides not healing up real fast from her physical injuries, she's still emotionally pretty beat up.

The couple mentioned some litigation going on in the aftermath, but didn't elaborate, and I didn't pry.

Meeting them left me a bit sad. Thanks for letting me vent a little here.

In better news, I found a really nice model 640 .38 this week. But that's a different thread altogether. ;)
 
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