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Sept 1, 1983, the Soviet Union shot down a Korean airliner they claimed had strayed into Soviet airspace. Coincidentally, one of the passengers who died was possibly the most conservative, most anti-communist, most anti-Soviet member of Congress. Rep Larry McDonald from Georgia.

Rep. McDonald dies when Soviets shoot down Boeing 747, Sept. 1, 1983 - POLITICO
 
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At the emergency session of the UN called to deal with the crisis, Gromyko told the world "Soviet frontiers are sacred!" The Soviets reacted with their typical Lie and Deny manner, they retrieved the flight recorders but kept that secret. I recall seeing news broadcasts of the UN session when Jean Kirkpatrick played the recordings of the air to ground traffic between the air defense pilot and the ground.
 
I think the Eastern Region PVO commander was sick of having his tail tweaked and was determined to kill something.
 
I remember Phil Donahue insisting snidely on his show that this aircraft had been engaged on a spy mission when it was brought down. Absolutely NEVER could watch Donahue after that. Despised him.

There was a TV movie about the incident. Don't know how true it was, but the Soviet pilot is depicted as weeping, realizing how wrong this was. My Russian is elementary, but he seemed to be saying, "Holy Mother..."

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I was part of the team which did an analysis of the event. The Russians claimed that the fighter had fired tracer rounds at the aircraft to alert the pilot that he had strayed into Soviet airspace. The Russian story was that the pilot ignored the warning shots.

In recreating the incident, I took the the data provided by the Russian as to how far behind the airliner the fighter was flying when he fired several bursts of cannon fire using tracer shells to alert the pilot. With this positional data, I calculated the bullet drop. Based upon the distance the fighter was behind the airliner, the rounds fired by the fighter would have been about one mile below the airliner so there was no way the pilot could have seen the tracer shells. The Russian claim about warning the airliner was completely false. It was shot down with no warning!
 
Sept 1, 1983, the Soviet Union shot down a Korean airliner they claimed had strayed into Soviet airspace. Coincidentally, one of the passengers who died was possibly the most conservative, most anti-communist, most anti-Soviet member of Congress. Rep Larry McDonald, Democrat from Georgia.

Rep. McDonald dies when Soviets shoot down Boeing 747, Sept. 1, 1983 - POLITICO



In the early 90's I piloted a military ISR plane (ISR = Intelligence Surveillance Reconnaissance = Spy Plane) from South Korea to Selma, Alabama for some major depot level repair. The first leg of the flight was from South Korea to Shemya, an Aleutian island that at the time was an active U.S Air Force base. Almost all of the flight was along a path that put Russia just outside the right cockpit window, within 20 nautical miles of Soviet airspace at the one point.

By the way Sheyma was a site to see. It looked exactly like this picture the morning after we arrived. At the time of arrival it was much worse, ink black darkness, 35 knt direct cross wind - gusting to 45 knts, heavy snow blowing sideways, ceiling and visibility down to absolute minimums for the ILS approach! That place must have been a hellish assignment for the Air Force folks.

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As the flight was along the same path as KAL 007 and those pilots had been using an INS (inertial navigation system) exactly like the one installed in our plane, I took great interest in the story and did some pre-flight research into it. I remember reading that the Soviet's had altered the recording of the pilot to ground control comms they released to the international media. Faked it to remove the fact that one of the Soviets had expressed concern that the target might be a commercial airliner, that KAL 007 actually had all it's navigation lights/beacons activated and had actually exited Soviet airspace and was in international airspace at the time of the shoot down.
Communists are going to Communist....always! In fact all the navigation charts at the time had big warning statements on them reminding pilots that the Soviets were known to send strong navigation signals from within their country that were the same frequencies as the nav aids located in northern Japan, all in an attempt to fool pilots into straying into Soviet airspace so they could respond.

Mistakes were made on both sides, but I will never be convinced that the Soviets actually believed that KAL 007 was without a doubt a spy plane and shot it down anyway. The fact that they immediately went into damage control mode, quickly located the crash site and secretly recovered bodies, debris and the black boxes, obstructed all international rescue/investigative attempts in international waters and conducted a campaign of disinformation of epic proportions is proof.
 
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i remember that .I was just out of Army Basic traning and was in A.I.T . The way Pres. Reagon was talking ,I thought i just got in the Army and we might be going to war already
 
One of the ironies of the KAL 007 shoot down was that it made the Soviets gun shy. On May 28,1987-Border Guards Day in the USSR-Mathias Rust flew his small plane in a straight line through what was supposedly some of the most heavily guarded airspace in the world and landed in Red Square.
 

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