Opinion on Kahr pistols

[Skeptic 9c]

Save up for a P365.

It's 9mm, it's new, it works, and it's not a product of Sung Myung Moon's Unification Church.

The Son is not responsible for the Father.

Geoff
Who notes the obvious.

 

[Skeptic 9c]

I have a Kahr P9094N bought in 2005. It works well, there was a break in but the hang ups were my inexperience. Slingshot it off the slide stop.
It was designed at a time when Police wanted auto pistols which had triggers like S&W Model 10s. It meets that goal.
Geoff
Who has difficulty carrying concealed.

 

[VictorLouis]

I've had at least a half-dozen sojourn with me over the past 30yrs. Original K9 blued, a K40, couple of E9's, ALL without issue. They were also ALL steel. Then, onto a couple of PM9's, one P9, etc. The PM9 was subject to a recall, and one of mine needed those tweeks to function. My first TP45 had to go back twice, before they figured out the chamber was cut too deeply. It wouldn't detonate Win/USA reliably. One TP45 at this point, and she's g2g.

I would snatch-up that .380 in a NY minute.

 

[otis24]

I had owned a Kahr 20 years ago, stainless 9mm. To me, nothing matches the feel of an all steel Kahr. After 20 years of not owning one, I found one on G-Broker this year that is like new. It handles and carries well. IMHO, a Kahr K9 matches the ergonomics of a Browning Hi Power, except in a subcompact. With a trigger that many say equals that of a fine S&W revolver.

I had heard that Kahr has had some feeding issues in the past, but that was with polymer pistols. I am not too familiar with their .380s. Again, at $250, try it. In this market you can always sell it if you don't like it.

 

[Muss Muggins]

Save up for a P365.

It's 9mm, it's new, it works, and it's not a product of Sung Myung Moon's Unification Church.

Neither is Kahr. Justin and his brother had a bitter and well publicized split from the Unification Church after their father's death, forming a separate entity . . .

 

[Telecaster]

Save up for a P365.

It's 9mm, it's new, it works, and it's not a product of Sung Myung Moon's Unification Church.

Are Kalashnikovs, Walthers, and Mausers acceptable? Asking for a friend...

 

[uncleted327]

I've owned a few, CM9, PM9. Good guns, well made for the most part. And I was always able to buy them new at a great price. Can't believe people are whining about a 200 round break in, who doesn't put that or much more through any new carry gun? Triggers are very revolver like, smooth but a bit long. Recoil springs are very stiff at first, one of the reasons for the break in. Only thing I don't like are the magazines. The little metal tab that sticks through the bottom of the magplate is not long enough. On some of them you can flick the plate off with one swipe of the thumb. Some are better than others as far as that goes. For $250 in these times I would have left with it for sure. And I can't believe anyone is recommending a *** staple gun like a Keltec over a Kahr...completely different class of quality.

 

[SuperMan]

Couldn't be happier with mine....

Although 90+% of the time I carry a Colt Commander my "if I need something smaller" guns are Kahrs...a PM9 and P380. I did my LEOSA quals with both of them and shot back to back 72/72 with both guns... With the Colt and G19 71/72...

Being an old DA revolver shooter I like the trigger pull on the Kahrs more than the striker fired guns...

Sights on both guns are excellent and the P380 is smaller than the G42.

Bob

 

[Sistema1927]

Any gun that requires a few hundred rounds to break-in should not have left the factory.
What would that much ammo cost today?
If you could even find it.
Glock can get a pistol out the door for less than $90 per unit (their cost) that pretty much fires every time from the git-go.
Kahr needs to hire a former Glock engineer or two.

Well, one of the things that Glock doesn't have to contend with is the asymmetric feed ramp that was on my PM9. This allowed them to make a very tiny 9mm pistol, and at the time it came out there was nothing to compare. As small, if not smaller than most .380's and .32's.

That said, even though they recommended 200 rounds, and even though I complied, I had exactly one failure to feed, on my first mag, and then it was flawless afterwards.

 

[OLDSTER]

I've owned 2; a .380 and 9mm. Seem to be good quality with a unique design. Unfortunately, my trigger finger does not like the shape of the Kahr trigger guard and would get chewed up.. So I traded both away.

 

[geeollie]

Ditrina, just a heads up that the newer Kahr 380's have small production changes over the older models.

Magazine has shorter lips...some early models had failure to feed some rounds..
The extractor now has very slightly deeper claw....grabs the rim better. At some point in time Kahr re-profiled the extractor claw with a slight radius on the front edge to better assure it grabbed all brands of ammo.
The extractor rear pin is now shorter.
Kahr now sells an updated striker...... a few have reportedly broken.
The slide release...MAY....now come re-profiled to minimize accidental slide lock. Many owners have re-profiled this part themselves....some longer bullet shapes contact the slide lock.

All of these parts can easily be purchased and replaced by owner, if you experience any of the associated problems. They may not be needed. But it is all done very easily.

 

[Stevie]

I bought the wife a pink framed P380 new. The only issue I had was because my grip on the little gun could cause me to engage the slide stop under recoil....figured out to keep my shooting hand thumb away from the slide stop and no further problems.

Later I found a clean used black framed P380 and bought it for myself....No issues with it either.

 

[sheepdawg]

Carried a CW40 for a while. Too finicky with ammo for me to trust it.

 

[BloodyThumb]

I had two PM9's. Carried one or the other as backup for many years back before the current rash of good hi-cap micro compacts. Both are now sold but still in service as backups. After breaking them in, both ran fine though thousands of rounds with nothing more than a recoil spring replacement as a matter of routine at set intervals. I never replaced the springs due to issues.

My only two complaints were 1.) the triggers, while pretty smooth and light, were LONG, and LONG reset, very revolver like as others have stated. Certainly not a BAD trigger, just not my first choice due to being so different than my duty weapon. and 2.) if you are in whine country they always bring out the rash of obligatory "if I pay X for yada I should not have to Y to break them in" whines (usually nasal whines to boot). I have a low tolerance for whines and whiners....

I still have a P380 which went through the break in process (as specified UP FRONT by the way) by the maker. I had no failures during that time at all with this one. It has not yet hit 1000rd mark but is approaching it. It is my armpit hideout on occasion.

I could not recommend the PM9 these days only because there are several much better choices now, but for deep cover, the P380 still has a place IMO as it is nice to have as a third. Even though the G42 has the more common trigger, I still prefer the P380 to it due to the smaller size.

 

[Gene L]

I've had a PM 9 and a former Kahr with a slightly longer barrel, don't remember the number on it, but it was the most accurate 9mm pistol I've owned. I could get center mass head shots at 25 yards regularly.

The Kahrs I've owned were extremely reliable and very accurate. They recommend a break in period.

I briefly had a PM 45 (or whatever it's named) and the recoil was unpleasant. I bought it reasonably priced because the previous owner also thought the recoil was unpleasant.

 

[Goldstar225]

I've owned two Kahrs and I'm batting .500 with them. Liked the ergonomics, size, and triggers. The first a, CW40 was unreliable even after 500 rounds and two or three trips back to Kahr. The second, a K40 was completely reliable from the start.

 

[p8riot]

Somewhere in the back of my safe is a stainless PM45. Nice gun, sweet trigger, think it's riding in a Milt Sparks VM2 (made for a PM9). Pretty reliable little gun.

 

[Funflyer]

I've got two, a CM40 and P380. The CM40 has been rock solid and 100% reliable through nearly 1000 rounds, and one of my primary EDC's. The P380 was extremely tight when new and required lots of TLC until it loosened up enough to become reliable. IMO, the dual recoil springs in the P380s are a poor design and wear out quickly. Mine started to experience light primer strikes before 400 rounds and Kahr gave me the excuse that they are a "normal wear" item and wouldn't replace them under warranty. My gripe is that they have practically zero tension when in battery, and get obnoxiously stiff when the slide is pulled just half way back(poor design). Rather than buying another set from Kahr, I made a new guide rod and now use a single flat coil spring from the Kimber micro-9 and it is night and day difference from the springs Kahr uses.

 

[Old cop]

I p/u a Kahr CW380 in a trade but let it go. While I liked the trigger it was never 100% reliable, even after the 200 round break-in period. My second generation LCP has a J Frame like trigger (familiar to me) and has never chocked in over 400 rounds of FMJ & HP.

 

[ditrina]

Thank you all for your input.. Alas.. by the time I got back, it was sold!!

( Not the first time and probably not the last )