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Oregon Considers Universal Background Checks
State by state the big guys are going for gun controls.
State by state the big guys are going for gun controls.
oregon next in Bloomberg sights
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Note the statement where gun registration will be necessary to enforce this law. When gun control folks pose the "background check" question they ask "Would you support universal background checks"? That gets a lot of support. However, what they are not asking is "Do you support universal background checks that include mandatory registration of all guns"? They don't because the support then drops and people stop listening. That is the key for gun supporters....ask these folks to provide details about registration. Who keeps the records? Who has access to them? What about the FOI (Freedom of Information) Act? Could the press access these records and publish them? Ah, details, details, please.
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Problem is Oregon is a socialist paradise. Would be no surprise to see this trash go through.
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Oregon is also pro gun and growing. Let's be cautious about who is discounted as an ally.
Too often guns are used only to split by political sides. Try not to get sucked in.
Too often guns are used only to split by political sides. Try not to get sucked in.
TenTea
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MB spent several millions trying to get Governor Walker defeated in WI.
It didn't work out, so now it's off to Oregon.
Good riddance!
It didn't work out, so now it's off to Oregon.
Good riddance!
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This is a perfect example of being sucked in. You've been told all dems are anti-gun and it sounds a lot like you believe this. Do a little research and I don't mean fox or newsmax. Try googling Oregon pro gun and see what you can find.
Don't get sucked in. It's not to gun owners' advantage for any of us to parrot this noise.
Pro-gun is pro-gun.
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I'm off the belief that if one is a democrat then, whether they support gun control or not, they support the national party's agenda which is definitely anti gun.
The options are, be fornicated politically now by the democrats, or be fornicated later by the republicans. Either way we will have been fornicated.
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The options are, be fornicated politically now by the democrats, or be fornicated later by the republicans. Either way we will have been fornicated.
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CA is another place where pro-gun dems are trying to shake the stereotypes, starting with the dems. (insert high five here).
jag312
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Will the people of Oregon allow themselves be bought by a New York carpetbagger? I sure hope not.
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Didn't Oregon voters already impose background checks on themselves between private individuals at gun shows? Statewide elections in Oregon have resulted in NRA F rated US Senators and NRA F rated Governor. If universal checks get on the ballot what evidence of hope is there to defeat it? I think Bloomberg and others are likeky to build on the success in Washington by taking it directly to the voters in many states.
Forget the political labels of dems and reps. It just leads to general political discussion which is banned here. Look at NRA ratings. That's the right measuring stick for discussion here.
Forget the political labels of dems and reps. It just leads to general political discussion which is banned here. Look at NRA ratings. That's the right measuring stick for discussion here.
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quneur
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I would highly suggest you read the proposal and study it throughly. I would bet interjected within the document will be hidden passages which will annul most of the 2nd amendment rights. In Washington State, the new law effectively changes the 'shall issue' to 'may issue' in one sentence; "and that the application to purchase is approved by the chief of police or sheriff"
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Oregon requires sales checks like a FFL for all sales. No sales to felons, legally banned, etc. I guess I'm OK with checks to enforce laws already on the books.
Oregon does not have registration. They issue carry licenses.
It's a pro-gun state and the NRA is clearly not a valid measuring stick for this.
Don't get sucked in by the NRA or we all lose.
Oregon does not have registration. They issue carry licenses.
It's a pro-gun state and the NRA is clearly not a valid measuring stick for this.
Don't get sucked in by the NRA or we all lose.
quneur
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Then why are we having this discussion? If Oregon is such a pro-gun state, there is 0% chance of any gun control laws passing. Great for Oregon. Now, the NRA doesn't need to spend a dime or put any effort there and can concentrate in other states.
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As far as I know, the only private sales in Oregon requiring a background check are at gun shows. Oregon voters foisted this upon themselves via ballot in 2000. Otherwise, private sales do not require an Oregon background check. Oregon does have a system where a private seller can voluntarily ask for a background check to be performed.
Bloomberg and his pals want to expand mandatory background checks to "all sales" in Oregon. Your remarks above read like you already believe "all sales" require a background check and are ok with it. Is that what you meant?
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I'm pretty sure this is the case. All transfers, not just sales. Bone up on I-595 that was passed in WA. Read it very carefully. We now have 100% registration in WA. If you like gun registration that's what you will get, guaranteed. They will try to pass it off as a BC check.
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