ORGANIC????

[Kevin G]

I am not putting down the concept of organic products.
I do question the honesty or even common sense of applying the term organic to products. I see it applied to maple syrup, honey, seaweed, muscles(mollusks) and many other products.
To add a bit of humor, Down Maine I saw a sign advertising organic firewood, I took this to be tongue in cheek humor. It made me smile.
From what I found, in the US honey can be certified organic basically, if pesticides, herbicides, etc. have not been used within a 2 mile radius of the hives. That criteria can be difficult to meet.
Products from outside, the US rely on the producing countries for certification. I spent my career traveling around the world and question the ability of some nations to honestly impose organic certifications.
My wife chooses organic products, I’ve learned to keep my mouth shut. The organic milk she drinks is marketed by a local well respected dairy. Dairy products have a dairy code stamped on them, which indicates the state and dairy production facility.Her product doesn’t come from Bessy the cow up the street or the local facility, but from a national dairy corporation plant in Virginia.
A bit more humor, although not necessarily organic, in Portland at a fish market, I saw a sign advertising”free range lobsters”
Take care, Kevin G


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[Protocall_Design]

There is a sign down the road from us selling "organic eggs". If they are from real chickens, what else could they be?

 

[Chubbs103]

There is a sign down the road from us selling "organic eggs". If they are from real chickens, what else could they be?

What bothers me, it eggs advertised as being from chickens fed a vegetarian diet. I've been around enough chickens to know they do not desire to be vegetarians.

While I believe there is a lot of marketing nonsense involved, the wife and I regularly by two organic items. Carrots and milk.

My wife picked up some of the organic carrots at our local grocery one day, and when roasted by themselves (one of our regular side-dishes) they tasted notably better. If they are going into a recipe, I'm fine with whatever is handy, but by themselves (roasted or raw) the darned organic labeled ones really do taste better.

For milk, my wife gets very picky. Her choice is mainly based on flavor, not on the organic label. I have to agree, the brand she chooses does taste better and is not significantly more expensive. We do try to actively avoid growth hormones in dairy.

 

[Narragansett]

Here is my free range lobster. He walks the walls of my man cave

 

[mrchick]

Organic is something living that contains carbon atoms. All food is organic. The grocery store “organic” is a marketing term.

 

[Ματθιας]

How about "natural flavors" often seen on the ingredient paragraph along with "yellow no.7". Clearly healthy.

 

[pasound]

Organic, free range, all natural. LoL

 

[Bald1]

My wife is a health and fitness fanatic. Thes also an NP so it’s to be expected I suppose. When we met 10 yrs ago, she had never tried venison. She loves the taste but also loves that it is organic as it gets. It’s rare that we ever buy red meat. Maybe some ribeyes or NY strips occasionally.

 

[johngalt]

One issue with stuff labeled as ‘organic’ is it is supposed to be shipped in a truck with only other organic products, or loaded in such a way that it can’t be contaminated by ‘non-organic’ products. The trucks are rarely packed this way, they are packed for the cheapest/most efficient delivery.

 

[45Smashemflat]

For a chuckle, dig into the legal details of what it takes to be labeled organic, whole grain, all natural, etc. It does get to be quite funny, given how most people interpret those terms.

The most recent one for me, as my wife was shopping for handbags, were all of the items constructed from “vegan leather.”

Either folks have become sensitive to knowing the harm that comes from the killing of all those Naugas, or, somebody is skinning and tanning those pasty skinny folks that hang out in coffee shops. (Seems they would not make good leather.)

(I’m hoping most folks are old enough to remember Naugahyde furniture…)

 

[jeffrefrig]

Hey, as long as it tastes good.

 

[GnarlsR2]

Interesting discussion....

I'm looking forward to Bobby Kennedy's work to clean up our food supply.

I buy cold pressed orange juice ($8 for 53 ozs.) to avoid the synthetic chemical ethyl butyrate that is added to orange juice in the carton that's been pasteurized and nearly all the nutrients destroyed along with the smell and taste of oranges.

 

[BC38]

I love to tell the "I only eat organic fruits & vegtables" types...
You know what organic means, right?
It means it was grown in feces.
That usually results in them getting a very interesting look on their faces.

 

[Chuck24]

What bothers me, it eggs advertised as being from chickens fed a vegetarian diet. I've been around enough chickens to know they do not desire to be vegetarians.

While I believe there is a lot of marketing nonsense involved, the wife and I regularly by two organic items. Carrots and milk.

My wife picked up some of the organic carrots at our local grocery one day, and when roasted by themselves (one of our regular side-dishes) they tasted notably better. If they are going into a recipe, I'm fine with whatever is handy, but by themselves (roasted or raw) the darned organic labeled ones really do taste better.

For milk, my wife gets very picky. Her choice is mainly based on flavor, not on the organic label. I have to agree, the brand she chooses does taste better and is not significantly more expensive. We do try to actively avoid growth hormones in dairy.

Remember Frank Purdue and the marigolds?

 

[Rudi]

I don't trust a lot of "organic" stuff. I grow a big garden every year, organic. Everything thrives. I do soil building all year. I plant with steer and chicken manure, blood meal, maybe some bone meal and lime.

 

[Kitgun]

One serving of organic chemistry was enough for me.

 

[Pisgah]

Here is plain truth: Plastic is organic...

 

[BigBoy99]

Organic = higher prices

 

[s&wchad]

... I saw a sign advertising”free range lobsters”

Yippee Ki Yay!

 

[TXBryan]

Full disclosure: I worked for a crop protection products provider for 19 years (pesticides).

Organic designation is a marketing tool pure and simple. Organic production has relatively strict requirements but pesticides ARE permitted so long as they are on the "approved" list. Most of those pesticides on the approved list are among the oldest on the market and, coincidentally, among the most hazardous.

I hold an earned PhD in pesticide biochemistry and have made a career of advancing the safety of "modern" crop protection products. The standards have changed over time and new introductions to the market are as close to harmless as we can get unless you're the target organism.

Organic marketing plays on fear and distrust and is mostly devoid of facts and reality. That said if a farmer believes he can earn more and provide a better life for his family adhering to organic standards he has my full support. It's a free country.

Bryan