+P Snub Revolver ratings ?

[Sportsterguy]

Regular or +P. Not a big difference in power out of a snub and your 60 should easily handle the +P's. If I'm carrying a .357 revolver as my carry weapon it's loaded with .357 Speer GD's in 158 grains.

It all comes down to shot placement with ANY self defense caliber. A good COM hit or two beats a miss or a non lethal shot with any caliber.

JMO

 

[Art Doc]

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[ldp4570]

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Thanks SP, I couldn't remember where it was you posted before!

 

[Art Doc]

I didn't post it there. The blogger contacted me and asked permission to post it on his site.

 

[ldp4570]

I didn't post it there. The blogger contacted me and asked permission to post it on his site.

Roger that, its still one of the best reads on +P ammo out there!!! I refer folks there all the time when this age old discussion comes up!

 

[Art Doc]

Thank you.

 

[Hobie]

Yes, we don't want to lose it! Good info SP!

 

[engtee]

Good article.

Excellent article, but I did not see it addressing Airweights. I am looking to get an Airweight J-Frame and wanted to use the BB 158gr +P in it. I have a line on an older gen 442, but do not know whether it can take these loads.

 

[Maximumbob54]

After dealing with my own cracked frame 637, seeing multiple cracked frame 12's, and reading up on the issue... I think it has more to do if the barrel was stressed into the frame too much that leads to the crack. So if you shoot only standard pressure ammo it should be unlikely that your frame cracks. The more you stress the frame with higher pressure ammo or more velocity dump from bullet impact on forcing cone then the more likely you are to crack the frame. With all the different tests available in NDT labs I would have thought this would be easy to check for on the Assembly line and set it up right. Obviously I'm missing something in that theory.

 

[Protected]

this should help some..... it did for me.....

.38 Special - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

if you scroll to the bottom there is a nice little chart of teh chamber pressures of various rounds. .38spcl is listed at 17k PSI, with +P being 20k PSI, adn .357 being around 35k PSI.

looks like +p is about 17% higher pressure, and .357 is over 100% higher pressure.

i would fair to say that +p and standard pressure are almost the same

the article also states that +p is very close to what standard ammo used to be.

 

[The Real Hawkeye]

Excellent article, but I did not see it addressing Airweights. I am looking to get an Airweight J-Frame and wanted to use the BB 158gr +P in it. I have a line on an older gen 442, but do not know whether it can take these loads.

The article DID address Airweights, since Airweights (all of them, regardless of date of manufacture, assuming the cylinders are steel) are chambered for standard pressure .38 Special, and +P only means that pressures are standard, not reduced, and come nowhere near the limit of what the gun can structurally tolerate. Would you want to do your target shooting with +P in your non-+P rated Airweight J-Frame? Probably not, as it will accelerate wear. You don't, however, need to worry about carrying that load and having it put the gun out of commission at the very time you need it to save your life. They're just not that hot.

 

[shouldazagged]

My 1990-built 640 no-dash is laser etched inside the frame "Tested For +P+". I'm not going to shoot +P+ in it--have no reason to even if I could find it--but you needn't worry about your M60.

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

I'm not even going to bother. The myth of +P obviously cannot be overcome. A member on another forum is worried that +P ammo will damage his 357 Magnum. It's simply not possible to overcome such raging ignorance.

Well, it's probably not possible to overcome it, but one can ridicule it. Did his .357 have a model number, or was it pre-57? Right on this forum, I have asked whether my 520 is safe with +P, and people have seriously called me stupid (rather than calling me seriously stupid, which is a whole 'nother thing). Remember, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink, unless you're a Texan.