Paying to Rebuild the Ukraine

[biku324]

The rule is........you're supposed to back that up with a reason.

Otherwise you just wasted a post.

No problem - here's the UN report from last week on Russian atrocities in Ukraine. War crimes have been committed in Ukraine conflict, top UN human rights inquiry reveals | | 1UN News

Where's the similar UN report on Ukrainian executions, tortures, and rapes of ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine? Do recall Russia is on the Security Council.

 

[BSA1]

All this does not make Ukraine look good to those who are aware of her offenses.

I am missing your point.

Does Ukraine have a right to exist as a independent nation?

Or

Is it a part of a Russian territory as Putin claims?

Regardless of the corruption in their government and ethnic suppression most of the world, including the U.N., recognizes Ukraine as a independent nation with territorial borders.

When it comes to corruption in government no one can hold a candle to how corrupt our own government is.

I see this war as a European problem. Britain and France has nukes so they are hardly helpless to responding in kind with their own nukes. This is the type of situation the U.N. is designed to resolve.

 

[DWalt]

Has anyone else heard that there is information now leaking out suggesting that the NORD pipelines may have been taken out by a Navy P-8 with HAAWC-equipped Mk 54s? If there is any truth to to the rumor, I believe that would be considered an act of war.

 

[biku324]

Abraham Lincoln said info found online can be hard to verify.

The closest folks to it believe the Russians sabotaged it an act of asymmetric warfare. Russian Sabotage Suspected in Nord Stream Gas Pipeline Leaks

 

[DWalt]

I suppose we will all know within a few days if there is any foundation for the story, if not sooner.

 

[Rudi]

There is so much disinformation now. Maskirovka? CIA? Boy Scouts? Hopefully, we'll find out.

 

[Paul in Nevada]

Has anyone else heard that there is information now leaking out suggesting that the NORD pipelines may have been taken out by a Navy P-8 with HAAWC-equipped Mk 54s? If there is any truth to to the rumor, I believe that would be considered an act of war.

I don't think anyone seriously doubts that the US destroyed that pipeline. The method is incidental.

 

[bigwheelzip]

I don't think anyone seriously doubts that the US destroyed that pipeline. The method is incidental.

I don't believe we had anything to do with breaking the pipelines, one of which was shutdown for a month before the explosion, while the other had never opened.
Several Baltic navies had Russian ships under surveillance at the site of the damage in the days leading up to the leak events.
Additionally, before the pipeline damage occured, Russia had initiated an enormous gas flaring event at an LNG plant near Finland's border.
I think Russia is using some of the gas it can't sell, to create a little drama.

Russia burns large amounts of gas amid supply cuts to Europe | News | DW | 26.08.2022



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[UncleEd]

I don't think anyone seriously doubts that the US destroyed that pipeline.

Suspect your view is based on
the American Lord Haw-Haw
featured on Russian TV.

 

[Yaworski]

Ethnic Russians in the east are also fighting for freedom from Ukrainian oppression.

That's an internal squabble and the Russians should not be involving themselves the problems of another sovereign nation. Ethnic Russians are not "Russians." If they want to live in Russia, let them emigrate.

 

[Paul in Nevada]

Suspect your view is based on
the American Lord Haw-Haw
featured on Russian TV.

Why do you post like you are writing a haiku?

Azov Nazis on the march
Save the Big Guy from Hunter shame
Die for LNG

 

[IronSkillet]

Paying to rebuild Ukraine; who is to say this isn't just the beginning of something much bigger? By the time the dust settles Ukraine could look pretty good compared to everything else. This Nord Stream 1-2 incident with threats made previously back in February now Russian nuclear sub has vanished.

Have to agree with this staying as a positive discussion, you may not understand another forum members position but each has something to offer and contribute.

 

[biku324]

So far as I can see, the origin of the 'America did it' conspiracy theory is a single TV talking head.

 

[Onomea]

I don't think anyone seriously doubts that the US destroyed that pipeline. The method is incidental.

Well, I do. I also think the moon isn't made of green cheese.

 

[ladder13]

I'll be glad to give the mod who closes this Bizarro World thread a like.

 

[16thVACav]

Please! Somebody, anybody - tell me how to use the "block" function!

 

[ditrina]

Good gracious what a mess, I step away for a moment and this thread just spirals downward

We're done.