PC Model 41?

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I am an FFL in Nevada. We predominatly sell modern, polymer, black guns and rifles although we do carry and sell (when we can get them) some lever rifles and revolvers. One of my distributors offered me a PC model 41 today and I am just wondering if people still buy these. For anybody that knows about it, its not a budget pistol by any means. I collect too and have a nice group of Colts as well as Smith's but this is brand new so its not a collectible. I realize this is somewhat of an odd question but I was just wondering. The Smith SKU is 178031

FYI: I asked a similar question about the model 617 revolver in the proper forum as well.

Thanks.
 
These guns are (seemingly?) only purchased by folks who are not old school fans of the S&W brand. They don’t garner a lot of respect on this forum. They don’t seem to be made nearly to the level we’ve come to expect from the classic S&W Model 41… and for the same or more often more money than chasing down a much better classic one.

If you are searching for opinions, I wouldn’t buy one of these at half of MSRP, I would never recommend one to a friend.
 
Smith and Wesson quality control is hit and miss lately on any firearm they sell except for their plastic guns. I am a "never say never" type of individual and several yars ago I listened to the baloney about only buy a vintage M41. I did so and got burned on the pistol which was an early cocking indicator model. After that I just swore off M41's altogether and went on with life, until I saw a new PC M41. I knew I wanted one as that model checked all the boxes for me even with the negative comments about them. I took a chance and bought one and it was love at first sight, for about 20 rounds. A day or so later that pistol was in the mail back to the Mothership.

When I got it back after a 6 week wait it was with great anticipation and low expectation that I shot it after cleaning it. It is and has been flawless ever since. I am a happy camper with my PC M41. I know there have been some negative comments made about this pistol as of late, but I have no complaints. The question becomes and will never be truthfully answered, how many M41's are sold and how many go back for warranty claim work? S&W certainly isn't going to give that information out, but here is the truth as I see it. Buy new and you at least have a warranty to fall back on. Buy used and unless you have a rock solid right of return you are stuck with what you have. Unless I know who owned a used firearm, or it has full right of return, I will only buy new. I purchased many a nice looking used firearm in my time and most needed some level of work to get them up to snuff. I don't want to play that game anymore.

Will a PC M41 sit on the OP's shelf for a long time? It may, but we aren't talking about an average run of the mill .22 plinker here. Like many other things, it's going to take the right person to walk in the store and see it, pick it up and feel its heft and say "I want this". If I were the OP I would have to do a full and complete exam of the pistol before accepting it for stock including a good hard look at the barrel interior. Poorly machined barrels are killing the M41 right now and there really is no excuse for this on a premium .22 target pistol. Remember this, we always hear the bad when something isn't right on a new anything, but rarely will people say much if something works right for them. That is just human nature akin to the guy who posts that he is having a problem with something, gets a bunch of helpful solutions to his problem and then you never hear a word from him after that. That drives me nuts!

Rick H.
 
Thanks. Quite a bit different story on this one vs 617. Probably not worth grabbing this one for my purpose although it just might sell via mail order vs having a local buy it.

Scott
 
The PC 41 is pretty high on my "To-Do" list... I just have to remove a few other irons from the fire before I can pull the trigger on one... But, I am not anywhere close to Nevada, so, you likely won't find my input to valuable...
 
What does the Performance center do to the "standard" M41 to bring it up to PC level? (Besides skeletonizing the front sight)? If I had a nice M41, can I send it to them for a PC upgrade?
 
The Performance Center circa 2012-now and likely forever:

the classic and classy logo that only means a few non-standard features. If we look at “PC” BG-380 pistols in robin’s egg blue, or or “PC” M&P-15 .22 rifles, the Performance Center is no longer a hand-fitted precision handgun built in a separate facility by a small team of hand selected talented craftsmen.

^^THAT ended a decade ago. That’s history.
 
The Performance Center circa 2012-now and likely forever:

the classic and classy logo that only means a few non-standard features. If we look at “PC” BG-380 pistols in robin’s egg blue, or or “PC” M&P-15 .22 rifles, the Performance Center is no longer a hand-fitted precision handgun built in a separate facility by a small team of hand selected talented craftsmen.

^^THAT ended a decade ago. That’s history.

IMO the PC model 41 doesn't bring anything besides some foo foo dust to the party! It won't shoot any better/worse than the basic 41.

So, you're saying you can pay another $250 over the standard M41 price and get a skeletonized hood ornament, chrome hubcaps and faux leather seats, but it won't corner better or go faster?
 
So, you're saying you can pay another $250 over the standard M41 price and get a skeletonized hood ornament, chrome hubcaps and faux leather seats, but it won't corner better or go faster?

That's about right. The biggest feature of the PC M41 is the integrated sight rail and removable front sight. For me that was just what I wanted, so the added expense was worth it. Makes it much more convenient to install optics if you so choose.

Rick H.
 
I decided not to get the PC41... The 617 did show up today.
Thanks everybody
 

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