Peleliu

Yep,a real meat grinder! And how many modern Americans know about that hard won victory?

About the only good in fighting there is that the Marines were not freezing, like our soldiers in the Battle of the Bulge.

You can view excerpts from, The Pacific on You Tube.

Thankfully, American tanks easily outclassed Japanese tanks, unlike the situation in Europe.
 
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Recommended reading is a short overview in the Osprey Campaign series titled “Peleliu 1944: The forgotten corner of hell”. Lots of photos and maps. Only about 90 pages. Good read.
 
Yep,a real meat grinder! And how many modern Americans know about that hard won victory?

About the only good in fighting there is that the Marines were not freezing, like our soldiers in the Battle of the Bulge.

You can view excerpts from, The Pacific on You Tube.

Thankfully, American tanks easily outclassed Japanese tanks, unlike the situation in Europe.

Young adults today do not remember what happened in World War II as well as we remember - even with our memories - what happened during the American Revolution.
 
I saw it on the American Heroes Channel on directv
 
I watched 3 episodes last night. VERY good. I was expecting all honor and glory and heroism. There was all of that, but the men were human too—it was heartbreaking in parts seeing what they went though, the mental hospital and the lead character/hero suffering from nocturnal enuresis from combat stress. Their problems and overcoming them, made them all the more heroic to me.
 
With The Old Breed was the foundation of much of the movie. Supplemented by two others I believe.

The other book that I'm aware of is "Helmet for my pillow" by Robert Leckie who is also portrayed as a leading charactor in the Series.
I've read both books, With the Old Breed and Helmet for my pillow and they are recommended reading if you have any interest in the Pacific side of WWII
 
I once had a friend (now long dead) who was a WWII Navy Corpsman and had probably hit all the beaches in the Pacific. It showed, even over 25 years later. I remember him telling me that Pelilu was the worst experience he had. Sort of a sad situation. I think I was the only person he had ever been able to make a connection with. Most everyone else thought he was a weirdo and avoided him.
 
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My father was with the 81st inf div and fought there. He was wounded 0ct/1944 by a Jap machine gun. He received a bronze star, I din't know that until recently while contacting govt sources. They sent me
the star, and all other awards he received. The nicest was the combat infantry badge. He had problems post war that I believe to be caused by his wartime service.
 
This is the island that "dugout Doug" thought needed to be taken so he could have hour of glory in retaking the Philippine Islands. It was not necessary and a lot of good Marines died for him. A really disgusting event in the Pacific war!!
 
Young adults today do not remember what happened in World War II as well as we remember - even with our memories - what happened during the American Revolution.

I went to both private and public schools in the 1990s and early 2000s, and my one complaint is that we spent too much time on the early part of American history. While I was taught quite a bit about the founding of our nation and the Revolution, pretty much everything from the Civil War to WWII was compressed into a half-semester.

While early American history is important, I believe that WWII is the most influential event in modern history. No student should leave high school without being able to explain how, in four years, the United States was able to defeat an evil European empire while fighting a war against a determined Pacific empire. Unfortunately, I learned more about that from Stephen Ambrose and Steven Spielberg than I did in school.
 
I finished The Pacific last night. As soon as I get into the office I am going to order The Old Breed. I genuinely can’t believe what those men went through, especially the conditions of absolute filth in which they were forced to live during those island battles. No wonder we finally used nuclear weapons after losing all those fine Marines. I read the casualties would have likely been a million or more continuing to fight for those islands and invade Japan.

I just read in Retribution, the Battle For Japan, that during the battle calculations show it took U.S. forces over 1500 rounds of ammunition to kill each Japanese defender, and that during the battle, the Americans expended 13.32 million rounds of .30-caliber, 1.52 million rounds of .45-caliber, 693,657 rounds of .50-caliber bullets, 118,262 hand grenades, and approximately 150,000 mortar rounds.

Simply astounding.
 
I am not a "fan" of MacArthur. There are just as many examples of incompetence are there are of "brilliance". I personally will never forgive or forget his inaction prior to the invasion of the Philippines that cost his air support and the continued poor defense that led to the devastation of the Philippines.
 
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