Pentagon to end "safe" zones on bases

[Nemo288]

On November 18, the Pentagon issued a Defense Department directive that will
"allow Department of Defense (D0D) personnel to carry firearms and employ deadly force while performing official duties."

Secretary of Defense Robert Work approved the directive.

Pentagon to End Gun-Free Zones on Military Bases - Breitbart
DoD Releases Plan to Allow Personnel to Carry Firearms on Base | Military.com

"the lengthy document also provides detailed guidance to the services for permitting soldiers, sailors, airmen,
Marines and Coast Guard personnel to carry privately owned firearms on DoD property"

Hopefully some of the saner businesses will see the light as well.
Not holding my breath but I do have a lot more hope lately.

 

[rwsmith]

I don't know what a 'safe zone' is...

.....but what is there sounds like a good idea. Bases are targets. It makes sense to arm people.

 

[dougb1946]

Probably will make no difference in behavior, as base commanders make the final decision.

may grant permission to DoD personnel requesting to carry a privately owned firearm (concealed or open carry) on DoD property for a personal protection purpose not related to performance of an official duty or status

 

[Rowlette]

Hopefully, they will see the light and allow Vets to carry their own weapons if they have CC license on V.A. properties and facilities. I feel a little uneasy when I go for regular appointments or Urgent Care since it is known that they're Gun Free zone.

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[chief38]

FINALLY COMMON SENCE PREVAILS!

Hopefully under the new Administration we will see more of these common sense changes coming about!

 

[old bear]

I did not try and read the whole document. Will anyone on active duty be allowed to go armed if they chose to, or will only designated personal be allowed to carry?

 

[murphydog]

It is several steps in the right direction and may have had something to do with the outcome of the latest national election. Permission "may" be granted to anyone legally able to possess and carry, and a state permit may be required.

In the second article linked, I am intrigued by the comment of the Army Chief of Staff, praising the quick response time of MPs at the Fort Hood shooting and stating armed personnel on site "may" not have prevented the shootings. There are extensive data showing the deterrent effects of concealed carry in the civilian world, and there is no reason to think that "hardening" military sites with more qualified armed service members will make bases less safe, except for the bad guys.

 

[Mack_C85]

While this is a nice crack in the armor, it is not the Richter Scale shattering movement necessary to make it actually happen.



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[yeti]

Good! Definitely a step in the right (logical) direction.

 

[Big Cholla]

The indication to me that some common sense is creeping into the national consciousness is that the Kern County SD, CA has recently authorized all properly trained and licensed employees including TEACHERS to carry concealed while at work on school district property. That this step was first done in California (to my knowledge) almost floored me. .....

 

[tirod]

Well, Joe Snuffy in Basic ain't going to get that letter. In fact, a lot of soldiers won't. There will be a lot of jockeying to discover who gets the magic wand waived and what that needs to justify it. I don't expect a lot of those letters to get handed out.

Even with a CCW and experience, there's likely an assessment of that MOS in that work place and what has been encountered in the past. Take what we know - recruiters, possibly. Inprocessing stations or other marked "gun free" zones, the signs may come down and a few people authorized in the right places. Around ammo dumps and armories, certainly. MP's already are, Range NCOIC's and others who assist in operations in the back forty - they likely already were. So they get papered.

Basically they cover all the Big Boys who were already following the rules properly and a few others to reinforce they are being somewhat open and conscientious about it. Every SP4 in a shop, not likely. Mechanics? Hard to carry on duty under the hood of a truck or inside the power train of a large vehicle. Same with other jobs. Hospital in a certain area, yes. Around the mentally unstable, not so much. Children, only specific assignments not across the board.

It's not a blanket answer and for the most part those who have it will be asked to keep mum about it. If they get outed it's a testament to their lack of skill, too.

General's driver?
Chaplains Assistant?
Supply Sergeant?
NCOIC Training at BN?

Some yes, some no.

 

[Tradewind36]

Retirees will not be authorized under these new rules.

 

[OKFC05]

I did not try and read the whole document. Will anyone on active duty be allowed to go armed if they chose to, or will only designated personal be allowed to carry?

It puts the choice on the local commander whether to allow some or all personnel to be armed; don't hold your breath about ALL.. IMHO

 

[apollo99]

At least it is an attempted step in the right direction. Better than some executive order banning guns, and setting up comfort spaces and giving out coco, and having puppies to pet. Well actually I like the puppy idea, I'm a dog person.