People from Away

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We live in coastal southern Maine. Our family moved up here from suburban Connecticut in the early 60s. My two brothers and I were little kids and loved it, so much to do.
We get a fair amount of tourists and people with second homes. Most are fine but there are some they want to come up here and change things.
Little brother really flourished, always had something to do and he was ambitious. In the winter he dug clams and sold them, summers he was down on the flats digging sand worms a.k.a. sea worms, they're really good bait. He'd box them up by the dozen and sell them from an ice chest in front of the house, self-service/honor system.
The flats are tidal, high tide covered with water, low tide exposed. One summer day little brother was worm digging when this man came out onto the flats from a house a couple hundred yards away. He tried to kick Pete off the flats. Now Pete was a gutsy little kid. Told the man he had no right to tell him what to do, he had his official State of Maine Commercial Wormdiggers License(yes, there is such a thing) and he knew his rights.
This man, he's from a couple of states south of here(that's code, an implication there) has a nice second home here on the shore.
When little brother asked the man why he had a problem with him digging the response was it made the flats look messy. He then said he was going to get some poison, spread it around and there would be no worms left a dig.
Understand now, the State of Maine takes its marine resources very seriously. Pete got home and called up the local Sea and Shore Fisheries warden, and told him what was going on. Pete was told that the Warden, I believe his name was White, would pick him up shortly and they'd take a ride. He thought highly of Pete for the hard working kid he was.
The Warden and Pete drove up to the man's house and knocked on the door. This was in the late 60s, back then law enforcement officers didn't wear baseball caps. These wardens wore a hat similar to a policeman's but a bit smaller and kind of crushed on the sides, sort of that 50 mission look that pilots caps in World War II movies had. In addition to the rather unique headgear, the uniform was sort of a forest green and a duty belt with the normal law enforcement gear. What I'm getting at is that when Mr. From Away answered the door he was looking at some sort of law enforcement officer but probably wasn't sure what kind and standing next to him was the kid he'd had words with out on the flats.
Warden White started the conversation with something along the lines of "I understand you've been giving this kid a hard time when he's been digging worms. Furthermore, something was said about poisoning the flats." The man was babbling some type of denial, the warden made it perfectly clear if he heard of any more harassment the man would be spending the night in Alfred (the county jail).
As Warden White was driving Pete home he told him they went and called on that man to protect Pete's rights but also more importantly to protect our way of life in Maine.
Pete had no more problems on the flats aside from black flies and mosquitoes.
Merry Christmas, Kevin G
 
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Merry Christmas to you also.

Nice state ya have there. Don't change a thing.

Lived in Bath while working at BIW for a while, and the family loved it.

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We have problems with those same people, they move into town and think they own it. [emoji853]

Tell me about it. Add in "3 time losers," psychos, hustlers and other "salespeople," and we have gone from 6 million when I got here in 1980 to 22 million today. We might steal a Rep from NY but the politics will come with it. At least there's no snow. Joe
 
Come out to Idaho if you want to see a state being ruined.
I have lived here all my 60+ years and from the 60's -90's it was a darn nice place to live. Boise was a great town and small enough not much went unnoticed.
Today you try not to pay attention because you don't want to see the things going on that we see now.
Attitudes have changed, once open land is now shopping malls and subdivisions. Traffic is ridiculous and the local governments are scrambling to catch up to the infrastructure demands. They never will. Growth rate is too high and so we suffer with endless road and utility work tying up traffic throughout the valley.
All in all the valley is ruined already and will only get much worse.
I do not begrudge anyone moving here because where they came from is much worse. I cannot fault them. There is no changing the trajectory now until it becomes just another metropolitan outhouse.
When I am done with my business, I will sell it and retire, I will move to some quaint little burg and finish out my days.
The people in that little burg will complain about my arrival just like I did about the folks moving into my area now.
It is what we humans do. Move to paradise, destroy it and repeat the process over and over again.
 
Traffic is ridiculous and the local governments are scrambling to catch up to the infrastructure demands. They never will. Growth rate is too high and so we suffer with endless road and utility work tying up traffic throughout the valley.
All in all the valley is ruined already and will only get much worse.


You need to look closer to home for the cause of the problems. There's no growth without building permits. I live in Vegas, I've seen the same issues and I know exactly where to lay the blame.
 
Tell me about it! Why the heck do people from major metropolitan areas move to the country then try to change the rural atmosphere into the rat's nest they just left?

We had some folks move into our little community. They were from a large city. The first thing they started complaining about was my friend's rooster crowing. Didn't like the noise. Then they complained about same friend's chickens occasionally wandering onto their place and demanded that he build a fence separating his property from theirs. Okay. He priced it out and told them the bid was $7500 to be split between them. In other words, their share would be $3750. They "hit the fan," so to speak. They expected him to pay the whole cost. He explained it wasn't his problem.

Anyway, long story even longer, he put up an electric fence to keep his chickens from wandering over to their property. Now, here comes the good part. These new neighbors didn't want my friend's chickens on their property, but it was okay for their kids to go onto his property and pick his raspberries and strawberries, which they would do with frequency.

First time they tried it after the electric fence was put up, their five-year-old kid got zapped by the fence and went screaming to his mom.

Ahhh, yes. Welcome to the country.:D
 
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We have problems with those same people, they move into town and think they own it. [emoji853]

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What gets me is that these are the same people who talk about "rude Americans" who visit other countries without appreciating the local culture and trying to "Americanize" everything. Yet, when they move to a culturally different part of the US, they try to change things to their way without bothering to learn the culture or making an attempt to fit in.

Apparently they can't see the hypocrisy.
 
Yes it's amazing how many people move away from someplace where they feel the quality of life has gone downhill badly then try to turn the place they moved to into what they wanted to get away from.
I like the story about a town near me in Central NJ, the city people moved there to live in the country, they whined and complained about the noise and the smells from the farms. The farmers sold out to developers, now those same people complain about the noise and the smells from the developments, they're looking at houses instead of trees, etc.
 
That is the great thing about this country. Anyone can move anywhere and make it how they want, if they have the votes.

Yell, scream, shake your fists at the sky.

It won't matter.

Maybe all of rural Texas and Alabama will move to San Francisco and Seattle and turn them into conservative paradises.
 
Tell me about it! Why the heck do people from major metropolitan areas move to the country then try to change the rural atmosphere into the rat's nest they just left?

I saw this going on when I was living in Maryland. My extended family and I moved into a county that was a rural county going suburban, and there was a significant influx of people from the DC suburbs. The people who had been there for generations complained about the newcomers who wanted all the amenities they had in the DC suburbs but didn't want to pay the price for them.

We heard the jokes about having to have 3 generations in the local cemetery to be considered a part of that community and how a preacher eulogized an elderly man who come to town as an infant as, "Not a native of the community, but one who resided here for the last 97 years of his life." But if we were not welcome, we didn't know it. We decided we would take the community as we found it and work to become involved in it. I joined the Jaycees and the local pistol club, my uncle coached Little League and my aunt started an athletic trainer program for the county and was inducted into the local sports Hall of Fame.

The communities I've lived in for the last 35 years have seemed to me to be accepting of anyone willing to become a part of the community and be involved in it. Back in 2008 I applied for a position on the Borough Planning Commission where I live now. I had lived here just under 3 years and the two other people made the point that they had been life long residents of the town. I made the point that if appointed I was always going to come down on the side of the citizens' property rights. The Borough Council voted unanimously to appoint me to the vacancy and have continuously reappointed me. When I was first appointed one of the Borough Councilmen said essentially, "It was time to get some new blood." I guess the upshot is that with some effort you don't have to forever be the person from "away."
 
When I was young, my small town had a carnival that would come to town every year. It would always be held on the week before we would return to school after summer vacation. All of the kids would become reacquainted with others they hadn't seen since school was let out in June. The carnival was part of our culture and had been a tradition for over 50 years.

After growing up, moving away, and living my life as an adult, I would occasionally read articles about my little home town. I had heard that many people were coming from the city and moving to the area. Occasionally, I would hear of crimes that would take place that were unheard of when I was living there.

Two years ago, I was reading an article about the annual carnival in my home town. It was cancelled and would no longer take place in the future. The reason for the change? The mayor believed that the level of violence had reached a point at which it jeopardized the safety of all of those in attendance. This news made me sad and angry at the same time. I no longer read articles about my home town.

I'm not exactly sure how we got here and I don't profess to know the clear path out but I hope that there is a resurgence in core values at some point. Without that taking place, I think the outcome is quite clear.
 
There is a Gentleman (sarcasm) who to moved to a town...........

.......near where I live. He came from Chicago and bought a bunch of property. He is doing his darndest to change this nice Ozark town into the outhouse he left.

Violating the Golden rule of relocation.

As said ,"That don't go around here!"
 
With all due respect to many wonderful Californians, I must relate that we are being Californicated with a huge influx of many from that once-Utopian state who are escaping it, yet want to bring their way of life and oddly-formed beliefs to Arizona. What's worse, they don't appreciate the irony of that.

John

 
My area is starting to change, and not for the better. My town has about 1,100 year around people and the total population number can change to 5,000 on summer weekends.

Due to the C19 things some people are moving up here full time and the contractions are very busy converting summer only places to full time. To be P.C. the newbies tend to be much different than most of the locals. They do not know how to act and as of now the property (and then the tax) value is going up, which will chase out a lot of older year around people. My lakefront property has gone up considerable in price and I even had two realtors asking me if perhaps we were thinking of selling.

We have been there since 1985 and we fit in with the longer time residents. Its quite apparent there will be big changes if this migration continues.:eek:
 
In the Late 1970's, Borden Dairy (Elsey the Cow, Elmer's glue and chemical company) moved their world headquarters from NYC to Columbus, Ohio. They raised a fit about out lack of opera, symphony, and subway. We did have the first two and a bus system, but it wasn't to their liking! They did cough up donations for the arts but no endowments and wanted tax money! There have been tax issues every other year since then. but we the people want to live a life with out those luxuries and payments. SO Get on you plane or buy a plane ticket, ang go to NYC, Chicago, or San Fen and enjoy yourself! Don't poop on my lawn and call it a gift!

A Doctor buys a home we use to live in and lets his boxers run all over everyone else's property! They get in my brothers horse pasture (miniature show horses), and my brother walks out with a rifle to shoot them, just as the doctor retrieves the dogs. My brother leaves the rifle at his house and goes to talk to the doctor. "Good thing you got the dogs before I shot them," began the conversation. after some resistance he began to see the light. In Ohio you are responsible for the damage done by you children and animals (if you can tell the difference). "How much damage could the dogs do?" the doc ask. "See those 4 horses, the two mares are $25,000 each, that stallion is $40,000 and his son is $50,000 to $80,000, we just don't know how great he is yet!...The doc looked at my brother an said, "If you ever see my dogs in you field, please shoot them!" "You know I will, if I can, but if I'm not home, it could get expensive!"

This man understood liability, the average Joe doesn't, and thinks his kids and dogs can go anywhere they please.

Ivan
 
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