If you must go, don't go armed, don't go angry, and don't engage with folks who only want trouble. If it quickly turns ugly, leave like your life depends on it - it may.
Pepper spray vs bullet. Bullet wins. Update: Charges dropped.
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sigp220.45
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No charges for the shooter.
Denver DA to drop murder charge against security guard who shot man at protest
Denver DA to drop murder charge against security guard who shot man at protest
sigp220.45: Thanks for the update! I was curious on how that situation turned out.
I'd guess he's out $25k to 50k in legal fees by now.
This is NOT a "mistake." If you are in a public place, my understanding is that you have no expectation of privacy. This took place at a public demonstration, for heaven's sake. Of course anyone there should expect to be photographed. I do think the news agency involved made a serious mistake when they hired the unlicensed guard, if they actually did that. That's just crazy!
I missed this thread when it appeared two years ago. As I was reading along I didn't know how this would end. I was surprised that the charges were dropped, but I can understand it. The victim having a weapon at the demonstration I'm sure didn't help the state's case. For us non-professional gun-toters, I couldn't agree more with the advice of our esteemed Cajun barrister. Everything sure would have been simpler if these two had just backed away from each other and gone off to have a good chew somewhere.
Look for trouble and you'll usually find it. Indeed.
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I bet the TV station got stuck with those.
I'd be surprised if it wasn't more.
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How are you guys seeing "Black Guns Matter" from a t shirt clearly printed: B L M ?
If you pepper spray a Guard and make it where he is unable to fulfill his job...........
It makes sense for the guard to take out the problem while he is able to
befor he is unable to take care of himself and the people he was to protect....
I would think ?
Trying to put Guards or LE people down...........
is not a good idea in my book.
It makes sense for the guard to take out the problem while he is able to
befor he is unable to take care of himself and the people he was to protect....
I would think ?
Trying to put Guards or LE people down...........
is not a good idea in my book.
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I'm curious, would one or more the legal types weigh in on the possibility/probability of a civil suit for wrongful death against whoever hired the unlicensed "security person"?
We can't read the victim's mind, but is the consensus that the victim backed up and deployed and drew the bear spray because the shooter grabbed at his gun, or was might there have been another reason?
I wish the DA had articulated why he didn't believe that he couldn't overcome a self-defense claim? That didn't seem to be a problem in the Kyle Rittenhouse persecution.
I wish the DA had articulated why he didn't believe that he couldn't overcome a self-defense claim? That didn't seem to be a problem in the Kyle Rittenhouse persecution.
Teary eyes is not enough justification to take a life anywhere I have been educated.
The "Politics" of Denver's DA ?????????
A lot of DA's seem to be interpreting the law.... rather than enforcing them!
IMHO just.....STAY AWAY from this kind of event!!!
A lot of DA's seem to be interpreting the law.... rather than enforcing them!
IMHO just.....STAY AWAY from this kind of event!!!
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The "guard" was an AntiFa goon. He tried to start an altercation with the victim several times before the shooting.
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Yes, it's called a "reasonable expectation of privacy," and the second you walk out of a restroom, changing room or your house, you generally lose it. It's the same legal interpretation that allows banks and homeowners to have security cameras that point to a publicly-accessible space like a teller window or the sidewalk.
I'm certainly not saying the guy deserved to die, but getting angry at a news crew for being at a newsworthy event with cameras rolling makes you kind of dumb (again, "dumb" does not mean you need a death sentence). And it's very common to see attacks on media employees (which, coincidentally, are a civil rights violation). I know some reporters -- even in small towns -- who've had guns pulled on them, threatened, shoved, shot at, had their homes vandalized after getting doxxed, etc. just for showing up at a house fire, protest scene or even a school board meeting.
The shirt says "BLM/You're f****** right Bikers lives matter"
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