Performance Center 640 Black has a very nice factory trigger

[FivePews]

To be honest, I find that consecutive serial number guns work best in groups of 3, not 4. Here, let me email you my address...

Well...funny story about that. My LGS called and said he had a second matched set. I went down this morning and examined them. The triggers were....not great. They both felt exactly like a standard 640 Pro (hitch at the staging point).

Turns out that he ordered four pistols. I played with the non-consecutive pistols and they both have the "great" PC trigger that my set from last week has. What I mean is, that they are a bit lighter than a 640 Pro and have less of a "hump" at the end of the pull. Just smoother.

I bought the ones with the good triggers.

I'm just so happy that none of them seem to have any problems. From experience, if you buy four new Smiths lately... 2-3 will need to go right back for repairs. Getting four solid pistols in a row is like winning the lottery to me.

I'm not complaining though. I like the Smiths so much that I keep buying them and sending them back until they are right. Worth it in the long run.

 

[BoulderTroll]

Well...funny story about that. My LGS called and said he had a second matched set. I went down this morning and examined them. The triggers were....not great. They both felt exactly like a standard 640 Pro (hitch at the staging point).

Turns out that he ordered four pistols. I played with the non-consecutive pistols and they both have the "great" PC trigger that my set from last week has. What I mean is, that they are a bit lighter than a 640 Pro and have less of a "hump" at the end of the pull. Just smoother.

I bought the ones with the good triggers.

I'm just so happy that none of them seem to have any problems. From experience, if you buy four new Smiths lately... 2-3 will need to go right back for repairs. Getting four solid pistols in a row is like winning the lottery to me.

I'm not complaining though. I like the Smiths so much that I keep buying them and sending them back until they are right. Worth it in the long run.

Awesome that they're working out well for you. My new Model 10 Classic No Lock I have on order was supposed to arrive at my FFL today via USPS, and still has not. Hopefully not "lost in the system"...there hasn't been any update on shipping progress in 2 days. At this point I'd be happy with it arriving...I'll worry about if it's a good copy down the road.

 

[FivePews]

Awesome that they're working out well for you. My new Model 10 Classic No Lock I have on order was supposed to arrive at my FFL today via USPS, and still has not. Hopefully not "lost in the system"...there hasn't been any update on shipping progress in 2 days. At this point I'd be happy with it arriving...I'll worry about if it's a good copy down the road.

That's a bummer. I thought all firearms had to ship two-day and I've never heard of one that didn't ship FedEx.

I hope you get it soon, and I hope it passes inspection!

 

[jeffrefrig]

Ya lost me at not liking the smell of the guns...!

 

[rubiranch]

Exactly!

I just have to laugh at ankle carry. I know I'll get hate from some fans of it, but it's just not a smart way to carry a gun. My favorite example of why not was one of my supervisors was chasing a dude at night across a field and he thought to himself, "Holy ****! He dropped a gun", and bent down mid-sprint to pick up the "bad guy's" discarded pistol, a stainless Walther PPK, and only then did he think to himself, "Hey...that looks an awful lot like my Walther PPK". It had come loose and flung quite a few yards in front of him as he was running.

I guess my brother was just lucky for 32 years.

 

[H Richard]

I always found with these small J Frames, in double action, the position of the finger on the trigger was key so the POI.

 

[Markmontana]

Im still thinking about getting one, doing a little research. Looks like the 340pd is more readily available, lighter, and about the same price. “Availability” comes into play cause it gives you a chance to see the very gun you’re thinking of buying. If you buy off the internet you take your chances with quality control.

 

[BoulderTroll]

I guess my brother was just lucky for 32 years.

He very much was. He may also have not been in a position or department that increased the risks associated with ankle carry. I worked in an area that included a lot of wilderness, and it was not uncommon to track suspects for miles up rivers, through bogs, through thick brush, over fences, etc. Someone in a city department would have much fewer problems in that regard, but still a dangerous method of carry. Many bad practices that used to be "normal" have gone by the wayside, and ankle carry is one of them.

I'd also be very curious to ask him how many of those 32 years he carried an ankle gun. Most of us changed up our routines from time to time, as new gear, tactics, and policies evolved.

 

[Beju]

Im still thinking about getting one, doing a little research. Looks like the 340pd is more readily available, lighter, and about the same price. “Availability” comes into play cause it gives you a chance to see the very gun you’re thinking of buying. If you buy off the internet you take your chances with quality control.

Despite being 357 J-Frames, they're optimized for different things.

The 11.8 oz 340PD is optimized for pocket/ankle/backup carry and more effortless carry, and can be used for .357 Magnum if you've got wrists of steel. Even full power .38 Special can be pretty spicy out of a revolver that light without rubber grips.

The 22.4 oz 640 Pro is a better choice if you're regularly going to shoot .357 Magnum or .38 Special +P, but is a bit heavy for things like pocket carry.

 

[FivePews]

Despite being 357 J-Frames, they're optimized for different things.

The 11.8 oz 340PD is optimized for pocket/ankle/backup carry and more effortless carry, and can be used for .357 Magnum if you've got wrists of steel. Even full power .38 Special can be pretty spicy out of a revolver that light without rubber grips.

The 22.4 oz 640 Pro is a better choice if you're regularly going to shoot .357 Magnum or .38 Special +P, but is a bit heavy for things like pocket carry.

I agree with the above. I've been running drills with nothing but M&P 340s since January 2023. They weigh an ounce or two more than the 340PD but are very similar to the PDs. Very easy to carry. However, this year I've decided to work my way up from wadcutter loads to +P and Mags while attempting to retain my proficiency and am quickly learning that a heavier pistol is the shortest path between these two worlds.

Running a three-second Jill Drill (5-shot Bill Drill) from concealment with an M&P 340 took me over a year to accomplish with wadcutters. Running the same drill with a 640 makes it faster and my hits are more "certain". The smoother triggers on the 640s make 25-yard A-zone hits a lot more likely.

The first week of carrying a steel .38 in the pocket was very different than a Scandium J-frame. After two weeks I got used to it.

 

[Beju]

I agree with the above. I've been running drills with nothing but M&P 340s since January 2023. They weigh an ounce or two more than the 340PD but are very similar to the PDs. Very easy to carry. However, this year I've decided to work my way up from wadcutter loads to +P and Mags while attempting to retain my proficiency and am quickly learning that a heavier pistol is the shortest path between these two worlds.

Running a three-second Jill Drill (5-shot Bill Drill) from concealment with an M&P 340 took me over a year to accomplish with wadcutters. Running the same drill with a 640 makes it faster and my hits are more "certain". The smoother triggers on the 640s make 25-yard A-zone hits a lot more likely.

The first week of carrying a steel .38 in the pocket was very different than a Scandium J-frame. After two weeks I got used to it.

I'm sure I've posted this before, but I keep debating getting a 640 Pro as an analogue to my 38 Special UC snubs for longer range sessions.