Hello all. I'm new to this forum but a long time fan of S&W. I have searched several different ways, but I keep coming up empty, for information on the Performance Center 67-5. I would like to know when it was made, if it is still produced, and approximate value. I have the opportunity to pick one up but I can not find any information and have no idea of the value. Thanks for any help you might provide.
Performance Center 67-5
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THE ROLLING STONES
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cigman1st,
If you have the box there will be a production code number. Does it have the Performance Center logo stamp on the firearm? It may not hurt to post a photo of it if you are able to.
Sincerely,
THE ROLLING STONES
If you have the box there will be a production code number. Does it have the Performance Center logo stamp on the firearm? It may not hurt to post a photo of it if you are able to.
Sincerely,
THE ROLLING STONES
PC 67-5
Cig, i just stumbled upon an unfired one and bought it yesterday. Smoothest damn trigger i have ever felt on a Smith. I paid $599. Shoots like a .22 in terms of recoil. I only had time to put 50 rounds thru it bit it is very, very accurate and balances great. I want to say they were made in 2009 and i don't think that many were made.
The "i can get a .357 for half the weight and size" crowd probably caused the limited production.
Thats too bad because its an awesome gun.
Cig, i just stumbled upon an unfired one and bought it yesterday. Smoothest damn trigger i have ever felt on a Smith. I paid $599. Shoots like a .22 in terms of recoil. I only had time to put 50 rounds thru it bit it is very, very accurate and balances great. I want to say they were made in 2009 and i don't think that many were made.
The "i can get a .357 for half the weight and size" crowd probably caused the limited production.
Thats too bad because its an awesome gun.
I cannot find reference to it in the Standard Catalog of S&W, 3rd Edition, but if it was made in '09 then it wouldn't be in there as the book was printed prior to that. I agree with The Rolling Stones, think that some pics would be good to see.
I have one of the original 67s, no dash, purchased in the summer of '72 just after I got out of the Army, carried and used it for years and still have it. Great gun.
I have one of the original 67s, no dash, purchased in the summer of '72 just after I got out of the Army, carried and used it for years and still have it. Great gun.
squidsix
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I handled one in a gunshop in Arlington, WA last year. It was unimpressive and overpriced, but for about $600 it would have been cool.
prescobd
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I have one and love it. I switched out the grips that came on it with Uncle Mike's/Butler Creet boot grips. I like the blackened stainless. I think most people ignored this gun because it was only chambered in 38 Special, but how many people only shoot 38's in their K frame 357 revolvers. It is basically a model 66 F comp that people will pay much more for, in 38 special with the addition of a blackened finish.
67-5 PC review
I, too, am new to this forum, though I have looked at it for years. I bought a S&W 67-5 PC about the time of the original post. It has become my favorite revolver, though there are a few minor issues with it.
To answer the questions, the 67-5 is made of stainless steel, but is blackened. This dark finish is very durable and quite attractive, though not as lustrous as the old blued revolvers. It is no longer in production. I paid $729 + tax in northern Illinois a year ago. At the time, this was less than what was asked by a couple of online dealers, but I have no idea what people were actually paying or what prices are in other parts of the country. Prices tend to be a little higher here than in some other states.
Overall, the revolver handles very well. It is not too heavy, it balances and points well. Personally, I like the rubber grips it came with as they fit my hand very well. As a point of refernce, I do not like Hogues as the grooves are too deep and in the wrong place for my hand.
As others have noted, the 67-5 PC trigger is very smooth in double action and crisp in single action. The only issue I have had is there is a little lateral play in the hammer, and when it is pushed to the left it drags a little on the frame and seems to create a tiny bit of grit at the end of the double action pull. If the hammer is pushed to the right, the pull is quite smooth all the way through. I suspect a shim would fix this problem completely, and the only reason I haven't done it yet is it really is quite minor, and I almost have to purposely push the hammer left for it to drag. Overall, I'd say the action is comparable to some older N-frames I have had, better than a mid-1970s vintage model 19, but not as good as a 1981 model 64 I currently have, which has about the best double action I have ever run across on any revolver.
The action locks up very tight for an S&W. This has not resulted in any jams to date.
The sights are the standard black ramp S&W target variety, which is to say they are great for shooting at high-contrast targets in good light, but not so great in other circumstances. I have always liked and done well with the red-ramp/white outline combo, so I did add hot pink nail polish to the front to make it more visible (very carefully so as not to cover the tritium dot). I also ordered a white outline rear blade from S&W, but it is backordered. Guess they're busy these days. The tritium dot is fairly bright but small. It's better than nothing in the dark, but dots on the rear sight would really help. These are available for an adustable S&W sight from meprolight for about $100, installation not included. The front sight is in a dovetail, so it would be easy to replace.
To date, I have put about 3,000 rounds through the revolver, of which 500 were 130 grain jacketed factory range ammo of various makes, 300 were +p jacketed factory hollow points ranging from 110 to 158 grains of various makes, about 200 jacketed reloads in standard to +p loads, about 1500 158 grain Lasercast SWC relaods in standard pressure loads, and about 500 158 grain Rimrock gas checked SWCHP in +p going up to maximum published loads (or maybe a little more).
Acuracy with all loads is quite good, with most shots staying in the black on a 50-foot rapid fire target firing double action. I would say that the heavier bullets do a little better, but I really haven't shot enough light bullets to really be sure they spread more; but that is my impression. In truth, they all group about as well as my old eyes will allow these days.
Needless to say for a gun this heavy, recoil is negligible, and even the hottest .38 loads are easily controllable in rapid fire. That said, the compensator does seem to make a difference. Compared with a 4-inch model 64 of nearly identical weight, the 67-5 PC has less muzzle rise and no greater muzzle flash that I can detect, though this may be due to the wider cylinder gap in the older 64.
One issue with the compensator is it does lead rather badly, even with moderate loads, and it is hard to clean. I even get lead deposits on the front of the front sight when shooting the lasercast bullets. I don't get anything like this with the model 64, but I guess I can stand to scrape the thing out every couple weeks.
The gun is also fairly small and the round butt conceals well in or out of the wasitband. Certainly much better than the 4-inch square butt 64.
Overall its a great gun. My favorite, in fact.
Hope this helps anyone who is curious about the 67-5 PC.
I, too, am new to this forum, though I have looked at it for years. I bought a S&W 67-5 PC about the time of the original post. It has become my favorite revolver, though there are a few minor issues with it.
To answer the questions, the 67-5 is made of stainless steel, but is blackened. This dark finish is very durable and quite attractive, though not as lustrous as the old blued revolvers. It is no longer in production. I paid $729 + tax in northern Illinois a year ago. At the time, this was less than what was asked by a couple of online dealers, but I have no idea what people were actually paying or what prices are in other parts of the country. Prices tend to be a little higher here than in some other states.
Overall, the revolver handles very well. It is not too heavy, it balances and points well. Personally, I like the rubber grips it came with as they fit my hand very well. As a point of refernce, I do not like Hogues as the grooves are too deep and in the wrong place for my hand.
As others have noted, the 67-5 PC trigger is very smooth in double action and crisp in single action. The only issue I have had is there is a little lateral play in the hammer, and when it is pushed to the left it drags a little on the frame and seems to create a tiny bit of grit at the end of the double action pull. If the hammer is pushed to the right, the pull is quite smooth all the way through. I suspect a shim would fix this problem completely, and the only reason I haven't done it yet is it really is quite minor, and I almost have to purposely push the hammer left for it to drag. Overall, I'd say the action is comparable to some older N-frames I have had, better than a mid-1970s vintage model 19, but not as good as a 1981 model 64 I currently have, which has about the best double action I have ever run across on any revolver.
The action locks up very tight for an S&W. This has not resulted in any jams to date.
The sights are the standard black ramp S&W target variety, which is to say they are great for shooting at high-contrast targets in good light, but not so great in other circumstances. I have always liked and done well with the red-ramp/white outline combo, so I did add hot pink nail polish to the front to make it more visible (very carefully so as not to cover the tritium dot). I also ordered a white outline rear blade from S&W, but it is backordered. Guess they're busy these days. The tritium dot is fairly bright but small. It's better than nothing in the dark, but dots on the rear sight would really help. These are available for an adustable S&W sight from meprolight for about $100, installation not included. The front sight is in a dovetail, so it would be easy to replace.
To date, I have put about 3,000 rounds through the revolver, of which 500 were 130 grain jacketed factory range ammo of various makes, 300 were +p jacketed factory hollow points ranging from 110 to 158 grains of various makes, about 200 jacketed reloads in standard to +p loads, about 1500 158 grain Lasercast SWC relaods in standard pressure loads, and about 500 158 grain Rimrock gas checked SWCHP in +p going up to maximum published loads (or maybe a little more).
Acuracy with all loads is quite good, with most shots staying in the black on a 50-foot rapid fire target firing double action. I would say that the heavier bullets do a little better, but I really haven't shot enough light bullets to really be sure they spread more; but that is my impression. In truth, they all group about as well as my old eyes will allow these days.
Needless to say for a gun this heavy, recoil is negligible, and even the hottest .38 loads are easily controllable in rapid fire. That said, the compensator does seem to make a difference. Compared with a 4-inch model 64 of nearly identical weight, the 67-5 PC has less muzzle rise and no greater muzzle flash that I can detect, though this may be due to the wider cylinder gap in the older 64.
One issue with the compensator is it does lead rather badly, even with moderate loads, and it is hard to clean. I even get lead deposits on the front of the front sight when shooting the lasercast bullets. I don't get anything like this with the model 64, but I guess I can stand to scrape the thing out every couple weeks.
The gun is also fairly small and the round butt conceals well in or out of the wasitband. Certainly much better than the 4-inch square butt 64.
Overall its a great gun. My favorite, in fact.
Hope this helps anyone who is curious about the 67-5 PC.
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