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just an update ! sorry i forgot the camera on the kitchen table ! we had a few get away ! i tried the fiocchi pheasant loads out and they work wonderful ! the birds didnt set well they were jumping before we got up to them and i wish i had a 12 ga instead of my 20 ! ! but i still killed a few ! heck it might have been operator error also i still had a good time ! thanks for all your info!
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