Picked up a new Shield for Wife and she doesn't like it

The Kahr CM9 is like the hardest to rack gun in the category. If she can rack that, then give the Shield some time.
Some rounds through the Shield and some practice with proper racking technique should make things work. Also make sure it was assembled correctly, it should NOT be harder than the CM9.
 
She is prepping for her CC class, but there is no rush. I want her to be 100% comfortable with handling, shooting, breaking down, cleaning, etc.. before she takes the NRA basic pistol course.
I'm an NRA Pistol instructor. The Basic Pistol course is designed to teach anyone regardless of experience. If the instructor is worth his salt, she will become 100% comfortable faster after taking the class. It is our goal to help people just like your wife become comfortable with handling and firing pistols.

I'm sorry you don't live closer. I'd run you both through the class for free.

Had an airweight. She fired it once and set it on the bench. She was used to my old Ruger GP100 which barely kicked.
Why do guys assume that light guns will be right for women? The Airweight is a great gun, but it's so light the recoil is tremendous. My mother-in-law had the exact same reaction.

I know you want her to be able to conceal this gun. Size is not the only factor. Even though she's tiny, a reasonably sized gun can be concealed with the right amount of effort.

Handling the recoil is more about the proper grip and technique than caliber. My wife liked the 1911 in ,45ACP better than any 9mm she tried. That was until she tried a Browning Hi Power which is really just a 1911 in 9mm.

Have you looked at the M&P compact or H&K USP compact guns? Both of those are far easier to rack than the Shield. I'm an expert and even I have trouble racking the Shield.
 
The Kahr CM9 is like the hardest to rack gun in the category. If she can rack that, then give the Shield some time...

That was a brain-fart typo on my end. It was the CW9 that we handled and there is indeed a difference between the CM & CW.

Why do guys assume that light guns will be right for women? The Airweight is a great gun, but it's so light the recoil is tremendous. My mother-in-law had the exact same reaction.

I owned the airweight long before she considered getting a license. She shot it at the range last year and I knew that would never be an option.

I am working with the dealer to try and "trade up".
 
After the 1st 50 rounds mine loosened up quite a bit. Also take a look at the spring and make sure it is in straight.
 
The pistol is assembled correctly and is smooth, just very hard to rack. Not to be puffy, but I was a Marine Armorer and retired as the 2D Marine Division Infantry Weapons Chief. I've been married for 26 years and the Wife & I have shot together numerous times. In the past, it has mostly been rifles and full size handguns. I retired and moved back to Illinois for some forsaken reason and for many years we had no carry law so no concern for thinking about concealment. Illinois finally got onboard as the last state in the union to have a law so now we are in new territory. I occasionally take my Wife to the range along with my Dad and she gets to try various weapons that Dad & I have or had. LCP, TCP, Airweight, CM9, XDs, Nano, M1911A1, SP101, Rossi .38 snubbie, P85 are some of the pistols. She's very good with my .357 lever gun and Colt M4. The little "Mousetrap" pistols are an absolute NO.

So this is new and instead of me thinking what's right for her, I'm not too stubborn to take her with again and let her decide even though the Marine in me thinks he knows best. :rolleyes:
 
If she does not have the strength to rack a slide (a gross motor skill), it is unlikely that she can manage the double action pull of any revolver with enough control to accurately place shots.

How about a tip open barrel Beretta .380 such as the Model 86?
 
That was until she tried a Browning Hi Power which is really just a 1911 in 9mm.
No...it is not. The only similarities are that they are single action, short recoil operated, and originally Browning designs, though the BHP was finalized by Frenchman Dieudonné Saive. I really hate when people say this. They look similar externally but are completely different designs. I know you know this.

Back to the regularly scheduled programming.

The wife's first choice in guns was a Taurus PT-111. I forbade it. Her next choice was a BHP .40. It's hard as heck to rack, but she's a physically strong woman and has no problem with it. She also wants a PPK/S. Nothing wrong with that.

She'll be getting a Shield 9mm herself, which I'd much prefer over any Taurus offering.

Nothing against Taurus in general, but I'm not a price point shopper and I'll be damned if she does so. That's been my only intervention in her gun shopping and I don't regret it one bit.

She's tried my Airweight as I love it, but like most, she had zero interest in it beyond firing a few shots.

She's a big girl, and she can make her own choices...as long as it's not a Taurus (or insert other cheap brand) I'm okay with it.

The LC9 and Glock 43 are good choices for those with smaller hands, and they're both a bit lighter. It's mostly preference among them. The Shield is the smoother shooting for most.

Another mentioned the "slow rack" a lot of women do. Some just won't grab it and rack it like they mean it. It should be a swift motion, not slow and deliberate. I've seen a few ladies feign the no rack situation when it comes to a gun they don't like that a husband or boyfriend is pushing them towards, as well.
 
This is my Wife's real passion. Riding our Rotty around the parks, trails & competition. Maybe I should get her another dog!

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Like others have said, leave the slide locked open, and take it out and put a few rounds through it when you get the chance. It will loosen up. Good luck and welcome to the forum.
 
No use in try'n to help folks . The husband has it all squared away as to what she will learn to shoot . Hopefully his wife will find what she likes .
 
Good luck with whichever direction you go in. As you mentioned, this is new territory and it may take a few tries to get it right. She's lucky that she has someone with your expertise helping her make the right decisions and providing her with some options and guidance. I'm sure she'll end up finding the right gun with your input.
 
Thanks folks, already have an Uplula in the mail as getting that 8th round in is hard for anyone! I did show her the technique above, but she is trying it too slow. I'm trying to describe and show her how to "snap" it. I'll get out to the range as soon as possible and shoot at least 300rds through it.

I also have a new Shield that I picked up a few days ago. I didn't notice the slide being too hard to rack, but getting the mags full was another story. I had to use a Glock loader to get the last rounds in the mag. I left them sit fully loaded a few days and then removed one round and put it back in without too much problem.

Your slide will probably get better with use.
 
No...it is not. The only similarities are that they are single action, short recoil operated, and originally Browning designs, though the BHP was finalized by Frenchman Dieudonné Saive. I really hate when people say this. They look similar externally but are completely different designs. I know you know this.
You're right of course, but for all intensive purposes, it's very much like the 1911. The "manual of arms" for this gun is the same. It's carried in condition one. Every shot is single action. It has a hammer.

The lack of grip safety makes it easier for some to get a good grip. Some struggle with the proper grip and the grip safety on a 1911.

The field strip process is essentially the same. The BHP is easier for most people because of the dual purpose of the safety and lack of barrel bushing.

It is a little smaller than the 1911 and that's a good thing. I've never fired one chambered in .40S&W, but the 9mm is really easy to operate.

Yes, not a 1911, still....


Retiredguns,
About two years ago, my wife and I went through the same process. My wife wanted a gun for carry, but couldn't find one she likes. Part of her indecision was the expense. She was worried that we would buy a gun and she wouldn't like it in the long run. After firing about 20 guns, she said that she likes the BHP. I had a friend that was selling one so, I snatched it. Even if she didn't like it, I did. Well, much to my chagrin, she likes it. ;)

It might take a while, but it's worth the journey. Don't lose heart. Just keep working on it.
 
Mine was very VERY difficult to rack. After many times racking the slide on an empty gun, and shooting it 110 times, it has loosened dramatically.
 
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Rick: The new PT111 G2 is getting some good reviews. I'm actually considering one. It wouldn't replace my EDC Shield, but for the price point, it'd make a good gun to keep in my Jeep. Only negative is the trigger, and I stopped by a LGS (Actually went to 3 before I found one that had one in stock) and tried the trigger. I could live with it, personally. Taurus is also offering a $50 rebate on them, which makes it more attractive.

If it wasn't right before xmas, I would have bought one today.
 
The smaller pistols......

Since they don't have the travel to decelerate the slide, their springs are stiffer. I'm not a weakling and I like the 'push' method of racking mostly because the serrations tear my fingers up. I'm also more confident with it and in doing it the gun is right in position to be used.

Keep gun close to body, reach over with weak hand and grab the slide. PUSH the pistol forward while holding the slide and let go. Only problem is keeping the ejection port from being blocked by your hand, but on the first rack this makes no difference.
 
I have the reverse situation. I acquired a Shield this Spring because I've sold scores of them to customers and figured I should probably own one in case I ever wanted a smaller gun for EDC (Glock 23 is my primary). Nevertheless, over the six months my Shield never came out of the safe, until last night.

Took the wife, daughter and son-in-law to the range for family time last night and took the Shield along to try. And the wife LOVES it. I also shot it a bit and could not believe how comfortable it was to shoot given its fairly small size. She has until recently been a revolver fan and just mentioned that she would like a smaller gun for her own to carry and is claiming my Shield for herself.

Maybe I'll get another for myself should I ever decide to downsize.
 
Retiredguns,
You traded the shield, so this reply is a little late. I don't know how you or your wife grasp the slide to rack it, but the video linked below shows an over the top more whole hand grip of the slide to rack it. I've used the technique and find it stronger than the sling shot type grip I'd always used before. Just for info:
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu9GB35lQcU[/ame]

George
 

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