pistol shooting technique.

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trying to understand what i am doing wrong. right handed shooter. makes no difference if shooting a revolver or auto pistol.

one hand grip hit at point of aim, but if i use a two hand grip on revolver/pistol all shoots are going way low left. shooting is distance 10 yards. any suggestions to what i’m doing wrong?

thanks for any suggestions.

rp
 
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Google " How to shoot a handgun accurately " by Masaad Ayoob. It's the best article I've found on the topic. Also Google the Ayoob wedge. What you will likely find is that you need to hold the firearm in a stronger " crush " grip which to me means practicing gripping the gun until you get a mild tremor and then back off a little. He also tells you about the optimum stance. The wedge often corrects the tendency to pull the shots down and to the left.
 
Squeezing to hard with support hand.
Your strong hand should rest in the support hand , not have a death grip.
Also the Two other things are anticipation, and altering your grip with two handed shooting.
If you are altering your grip for two handed, you may be putting just the tip of your finger on the trigger causing it to push rather than pull the trigger.
Too little finger will cause it to shoot low left.
 
If you are altering your grip for two handed, you may be putting just the tip of your finger on the trigger causing it to push rather than pull the trigger.
Too little finger will cause it to shoot low left.

I know that is the accepted wisdom but a lot depends on how much meat you have on your hands. When I use the first pad on my trigger finger I go right. I have long slim hands so when I back my index finger out far enough I cannot help slackening my grip with the strong hand. As a result when the shot breaks the gun twists to the right.

Many shooting manuals assume one type of hand IMHO. For example, I do not understand how people get slide and hammer bite. I just don't have enough flesh on my mitts for them to get tangled up in the works.
 
it may be where your offhand index finger is resting ,perhaps when the trigger breaks the weight of the offending finger causes a tremor? try extended dry firing sessions paying strict attention to your sight picture watching for movement. then try loading two rounds skip a chamber and load one round ,will help you identify and eliminate some bad habits
 
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When I'm shooting and things start to go south,it helps to unload the gun and dry fire at the target.Flinching is obvious with an empty gun.
 
I suggest -

When the idea of "improving" or "correcting" my shooting surfaces, I should focus on the END RESULT, not on which joint of the trigger finger to use or where to put my feet or how much to distribute the percentage of grip power between the trigger hand and support hand.

Clearly and historically, there have been gazillions of pistoleros who use this technique or that technique, often in direct opposition. But in the end, they all put holes in the black circle downrange.

Just as we shouldn't assume that "If I get grips like Bill Jordan, I'll shoot like Bill Jordan", we shouldn't assume that "Elmer used this portion of his trigger finger so if I use the same portion of my trigger finger, I'll shoot like Elmer".

Focus on what needs to happen and why it's not happening. That's what coaches, in any event, do. No coach in the world, at least no good or honest coach, says, sight unseen "You must grip your ball/club/pistol/bar with your thumb here and your finger there". The good and honest coach WATCHES and evaluates the athlete and only then SUGGESTS something like "You're throwing the ball low and to the right - that MIGHT be caused by not releasing the ball early enough". Then we'd experiment with that and if it seems to be true for this individual athlete, we can experiment to see exactly HOW to affect that release timing. It may be with a modified grip. It may be any of a number of other things like stance, angle of the joints, target focus etc.

Don't get locked into any ONE idea that "My thumb has to be here in order to shoot well". Figure out where and most importantly WHY your thumb has to be anywhere at all.

My hands, your hands and Bill Jordan's hands, as well as arms/legs/retinas/centers of gravity are all different.

Put holes in the black circle.


Sgt Lumpy
 
If you see your sights and they stay on target before, during , and after the shot. The bullet will impact where you were looking.

If you take your eyes off the sights then your bullet will impact where your muzzle is pointed.
 
I don't mean to sound like a smart aleck,,but just shoot off hand,,sounds like you do quite well that way.
Many people I see at the pistol range scatter shots all over and around a refrigerator size piece of paper at 10 or 15 feet using 2 hands from a rest.,,and they think they're pretty good.

Why place a big extra variable (the other hand) into the picture when you don't need it.
Just my way of looking at it.
But I think off-hand is the way to shoot anyway.
 
Been a low left shooter for ever. Training officer tried to correct my errors for several years. He finally told me to aim high to the right and walked away.
 
Simple little trick shown to me years ago that improved my pistol and revolver shooting dramatically.

I call it the "push pull" method. Grip the handgun normally with the strong hand, wrap weak hand around the front of the grip. Exert a modest (but noticeable) forward push with the strong arm and pull back with the weak arm. Keep both elbows slightly bent. This helps to keep the handgun very stable throughout the trigger pull and discharge.

This works with the old isosceles stance, the Weaver stance, kneeling, sitting, and with or without a rest. Keeping the elbows unlocked and slightly bent allows you to absorb the recoil and get back on target easily, even with magnum loads.
 
Lots and lots of good advise, shooting is like many different tasks that require hand eye coordination, and grip. golf, baseball, hockey or using a hammer. For most of us we have to develop a grip that is comfortable and works. Use a 22lr at 10 ft. work on your grip and sight picture until you can put all your shot in the center of the target. when you can do that start backing up. Once you are shooting where your looking start using your carry gun.

I think shooting is something if you haven't done much of take a bit of getting use to the noise and the recoil. and like any skill requires practice.
 
The Secret

I'll share a technique that was shared with me when I was a young soldier. It's very simple and virtually eliminates trigger control issues. I use it myself when I'm having a bad day at the range and need to return to the basics.

So, when you pull the trigger; force yourself to hold to the trigger to the rear for a two count; repeat. I guarantee your groups will improve.

Unfortunately this secret doesn't do much for sight alignment but trigger control is half the battle...
 
You could give this a try...do a Google on Correction Chart - Pistol . I have used these before and they help. Download and print it out, then put some holes in it!

Woops just saw the other post with the target...oh well...great minds
 
Thanks

Google " How to shoot a handgun accurately " by Masaad Ayoob. It's the best article I've found on the topic. Also Google the Ayoob wedge. What you will likely find is that you need to hold the firearm in a stronger " crush " grip which to me means practicing gripping the gun until you get a mild tremor and then back off a little. He also tells you about the optimum stance. The wedge often corrects the tendency to pull the shots down and to the left.

Good article...........thanks!
 
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