Plug for M&P Shield after thumb safety removal

[dfw23]

I contacted s&w, but the rep I talked to said they do not for the shield, at least the 9mm shield.
Does anyone else make a plug for the the shield after removing the thumb saftey?

 

[Raisin]

You can disable the safety without removing the entire mechanism.

Watch this video: [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRsxcPfZ8mE[/ame]

 

[yep380]

You can disable the safety without removing the entire mechanism.

Watch this video: M&P Shield Manual Safety Removal - YouTube

Please don't disable the safety by removing an internal part of it and reinstall the lever as the above video mentions.

I don't have to think very hard to imagine a scenario where having an apparently functional safety lever installed on a gun where the safety doesn't actually prevent the gun from firing.

If you want to remove the safety, remove the entire safety, lever and all. That way someone using the gun won't make a mistake thinking it's "safe" and it's not.

Seriously, don't cut that tab.

Best answer: buy a gun without a safety if you want a gun without a safety.

 

[Rando009]

Maybe smith should offer the gun without a thumb safety. I just got a PC shield that only comes with a safety. I thought Id get over it. Nope, now I get to deal with selling it bc Smith apparantly knows whats best for everyone. Just like they sold the M&P 2.0 5in barrel 9/40 in FDE with thumb safety only bc they assume it'll never be a law enforcement gun. They had made black ones but very quickly stopped bc of that reason. Wish they'd pull their heads out of you know where

 

[MichiganScott]

S&W has safeties on guns that really don't need them so they can sell that particular model in states that require a manual safety. Since well over a million gun owners have bought a Shield in standard form with the manual safety, I'd bet they see no need to manufacture an additional SKU without one.

 

[Tenn2]

S&W does offer the Shield 9mm w/o the safety. Try sku 10086. This one has night sights but it can be had w/o.
Russ

 

[Jeppo]

I own the 9 without safety and without the other add-ones.

 

[RobzGuns]

You could make your own plug by using black silicone glue.
Place tape across the hole on the outside of the grip
Fill the hole, from the inside of the grip
let cure (between a couple hrs - to a day), then remove the tape

Or... you could tape the inside and fill from the outside.

 

[jnbr19867]

Please don't disable the safety by removing an internal part of it and reinstall the lever as the above video mentions.

I don't have to think very hard to imagine a scenario where having an apparently functional safety lever installed on a gun where the safety doesn't actually prevent the gun from firing.

If you want to remove the safety, remove the entire safety, lever and all. That way someone using the gun won't make a mistake thinking it's "safe" and it's not.

Seriously, don't cut that tab.

Best answer: buy a gun without a safety if you want a gun without a safety.

I hear what you are saying, but know that there are some states like California (and others i think) that have an unconstitutional "Approved Roster" of only certain types of state compliant gun models their citizens can legally purchase. CA requires on new model pistols: a safety lever, magazine disconnect lever, and an obvious loaded chamber indicator. In CA, you can buy "off-roster" models (basically used guns), but typically since they're off-roster, there are few amounts for sale and people price them at a premium price thus making them expensive and out of reach for some (having to grossly overpay) and not to mention it's a used gun from a prior owner. For some people, they may not want to deal with the risk of the unknown of having to "take the word" of the prior gun owner for how it was handled, treated, taken care of, and possibly modified with drop in aftermarket parts for a period of time and then brought back to factory set-up for whatever reason.

So just "buy a gun without a safety if you want a gun without a safety" may not be reasonably possible or the best option for some gun people depending on the actual state they live in - and I would think even more for those with the above mentioned mindset if it's a carry/self defense pistol.

 

[Saudade]

SKU: 10035 is the model with standard sights.

 

[yep380]

I hear what you are saying, but know that there are some states like California (and others i think) that have an unconstitutional "Approved Roster" of only certain types of state compliant gun models their citizens can legally purchase. CA requires on new model pistols: a safety lever, magazine disconnect lever, and an obvious loaded chamber indicator. In CA, you can buy "off-roster" models (basically used guns), but typically since they're off-roster, there are few amounts for sale and people price them at a premium price thus making them expensive and out of reach for some (having to grossly overpay) and not to mention it's a used gun from a prior owner. For some people, they may not want to deal with the risk of the unknown of having to "take the word" of the prior gun owner for how it was handled, treated, taken care of, and possibly modified with drop in aftermarket parts for a period of time and then brought back to factory set-up for whatever reason.

So just "buy a gun without a safety if you want a gun without a safety" may not be reasonably possible or the best option for some gun people depending on the actual state they live in - and I would think even more for those with the above mentioned mindset if it's a carry/self defense pistol.

While I understand that several states (CA, MA, others?) impose unconstitutional requirements on gun owners, those are laws that people who live there must abide by. I don't agree with their laws, but I would never propose that people modify their gun in such a way as to break those laws.

The gist of my post however was pointing out that modifying a safety mechanism in a manner so that it appeared to work, but didn't (i.e. trim the nub off the safety lever internally but leave the safety lever on the gun) is dangerous. No one can guarantee the next owner of their gun will know the safety doesn't work. No one here knows beyond a shadow of a doubt WHO the next owner of their gun will be either (none of us are gonna live forever).

 

[mnarcher]

Maybe smith should offer the gun without a thumb safety. I just got a PC shield that only comes with a safety. I thought Id get over it. Nope, now I get to deal with selling it bc Smith apparantly knows whats best for everyone. Just like they sold the M&P 2.0 5in barrel 9/40 in FDE with thumb safety only bc they assume it'll never be a law enforcement gun. They had made black ones but very quickly stopped bc of that reason. Wish they'd pull their heads out of you know where

I was lucky enough to get one of the black 2.0, 5" barrel with no safety. There were only a few shipped to distributers and my dealer got a call the day they came in, ordered me one, and I didn't even know it. Next day he calls me and says he has something for me. So I stop there and low and behold, there it was. I bought it right then and there. Come to find out later, the distributer was not supposed to send them out as early as they did. Oops! Well, my gain, I suppose.

At any rate, I would bet that an aftermarket plug for the Shield safety will be available sooner or later, seeing as how that's what everyone seems to want.

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[jim46ok]

If you want to remove the safety, remove the entire safety, lever and all. That way someone using the gun won't make a mistake thinking it's "safe" and it's not.

Guess you missed the part "..if you remove the entire safety, the sear pin can walk out and affect the ejector operation..." or words to that effect.

I do agree that if only the owner knows the safety does not function, and it appears normal, it is courting disaster to anyone else. Want no safety? Buy one with no safety.

 

[Dave270]

I have an idea..... If your Shield has a safety and you don't like it, DON'T USE IT... There is nothing that says you have to use the safety. All my Shields have safety's. I would rather have it and not use it, than need it and not have it..

JMHO

 

[yep380]

If you want to remove the safety, remove the entire safety, lever and all. That way someone using the gun won't make a mistake thinking it's "safe" and it's not.

Guess you missed the part "..if you remove the entire safety, the sear pin can walk out and affect the ejector operation..." or words to that effect.

I do agree that if only the owner knows the safety does not function, and it appears normal, it is courting disaster to anyone else. Want no safety? Buy one with no safety.

I've only read online a bit of back and forth about the pros and cons of removing the lever and the possibility of the sear pin walking out. I honestly don't know if it would or wouldn't. Some say it might, some say it won't. I don't know. Fwiw, my shield 9mm has a safety, I leave it off. It's never accidently engaged itself.

I'll stick with my original statement, and I think it needs repeating: don't modify the safety of a gun so it looks like it works, but it doesn't. Ever.

As I said, and you said, and a lot of people said: buy one without a safety if you don't want it. If guns must have a safety to be compliant in your state, you still have options, like moving to a state that respects your constitutional rights. If moving is an impossibility, work on fixing the laws in your state.

 

[Buford57]

I will be picking up a Shield tomorrow night. It is my first and only striker-fired pistol. Since it was door prize, I didn't get to choose, but it has a safety. After thinking about it a bit, I decided it might be handy. I have always holstered DA revolvers and all autos with my thumb on the back of the hammer since I found a cocked .357 snub pointed at my left armpit over 30 years ago.

Since this is not an option with a striker-fired gun, I will probably engage the safety when holstering and then disengage.

 

[old-school]

I have both the shield 9mm and the 45acp, they both have the safety and with the help of two or three drops of clear Gorilla Glue, the problem is gone ( I have never sold any of my pistols, but even if there is a new owner, he can’t engage it ).