Pocket Pistol

[javbike]

I have some and love them

 

[Smoke]

Little shocking for a free state. Is Cheyenne infested with, you know.

Free State, blue city

 

[Smoke]

It's not Wyoming making these rules, it's the corporations that own the grocery chains.
The owners of the little independent market where I sometimes buy eggs and other small purchases have no such rules.

I have to ask, if the stores aren't posted how do you know they're prohibit firearms?

 

[Doriangray6]

I have to ask, if the stores aren't posted how do you know they're prohibit firearms?

I was looking for a certain item at their website just after reading an article about a customer objecting to this grocery chain's firearm policies in another state so while I was there I clicked on the link to their policies and saw that they applied to all their stores regardless of where they were located.
Afterward I contacted the Wyoming attorney generals office for clarification and was informed that while the store had the right to have these policies to legally enforce them they had to be posted at the entrance to the business and even then in Wyoming they couldn't call the cops on you for violating their firearms policy because it's not supported by state law, only ask you to leave and have you charged with trespass if you refused to do so.
Since all the chain grocery stores in Wyoming are owned by one of two corporations with the same policies there aren't many alternate options for places to buy groceries so even though the policy isn't posted at the entrances to the stores rather than deal with the hassle of challenging them I just tuck my 21A Bobcat in a pocket when I go shopping.

 

[LVSteve]

Yep, concealed means hidden.

 

[Smith391]

A few more...

 

[Pisgah]

If you run into me while in the store, keep in mind -- I am carrying a full-size 1911 .45.
If there's a sign, I'll read it and go on in...

 

[wrangler5]

Don't Ask Don't Tell was official US Gubmint policy for may years, so it must be an approved approach to something you don't want other people knowing about, amiright?

And Catch Me If You Can is more than a movie title. (A pretty good movie, IIRC, and based on a real guy.)

 

[Greyman50]

Costco has kicked my son out for not wearing a mask and also for open carry. I try not to buy anything from them. They don't respect the law or rights of people. I have a 21A and 950 too. Great guns.

Costco is Anti Gun, I do not have any interest in going there. I carry concealed and have since the late 70s and have never been " asked to leave" as they don't know I'm carrying, real simple.

 

[Greyman50]

Best Know your State/ Commonwealths laws regarding where one can carry. Ignoring a stores sign can only result in being asked to leave. Ignoring a state/ commonwealth law can put you in the " graybar motel".

 

[kelljor]

I was looking for a certain item at their website just after reading an article about a customer objecting to this grocery chain's firearm policies in another state so while I was there I clicked on the link to their policies and saw that they applied to all their stores regardless of where they were located.
Afterward I contacted the Wyoming attorney generals office for clarification and was informed that while the store had the right to have these policies to legally enforce them they had to be posted at the entrance to the business and even then in Wyoming they couldn't call the cops on you for violating their firearms policy because it's not supported by state law, only ask you to leave and have you charged with trespass if you refused to do so.
Since all the chain grocery stores in Wyoming are owned by one of two corporations with the same policies there aren't many alternate options for places to buy groceries so even though the policy isn't posted at the entrances to the stores rather than deal with the hassle of challenging them I just tuck my 21A Bobcat in a pocket when I go shopping.

Yeah if it is truly concealed how would they know if you are carrying? Unless they have metal detectors and security at the front doors but how likely is that?

 

[Smoke]

Costco is Anti Gun, I do not have any interest in going there. I carry concealed and have since the late 70s and have never been " asked to leave" as they don't know I'm carrying, real simple.

I'm only ever been in one Costco in my life. I look at the doors when I walk in and I've never seen a sign banning firearms on the premises.

I really don't care what's in their policy on their website. If they don't want me carrying a gun in their store they need to not make me go to that much effort to find that out.

 

[Paul slovenia]

DID SOMEONE SAY POCKET PISTOLS ? I like them, & have a few. My favorite carry is a MAKAROV, I have 2 Russians (9x18mm & .380), & smaller Polish P-64 for summer clothes.
A relatively under known & appreciated pocket pistol - I compare to the colt officers.32, Is My Zastava M88A (compact TOKAREV) which is approximate size - BUT LONGER MAGAZINE + 9x19mm They work well once the magazine safety is removed. Surplus ones are selling @ under $300. NOW - until they dry up.
I have put Better sights, & FAB DEFENCE grips on my Russian Makarovs - they feature thumb Mag release & beavertails. The Revolvers are: H&R Defender .38 S&W 5 shot, + 22LR 9 shot.
ALL are keepers & highly

 

[ISCS Yoda]

First item of legal business - those stores are private property and any private property owner can restrict anything from his/her/its premises. From a legal perspective, a "no guns" sign is not different than "so shoes - no shirt - no service" signs. Private property rights supersede your Bill of Rights. But not posting a sign is stupid - who would know if you don't post a sign? The policy, unless loudly and publicly advertised, couldn't be enforced.

Now that we have that cleared up, let's discuss this type of thing:

In parallel with posting requirements anywhere, the State of Texas created statutory policies for businesses that want to enforce "no guns" policies. Simply put, there is a statutory sign that has to be posted, very specifically worded in size of characters, and requiring clear statement of the prohibition. No guns, no concealed guns, no openly carried guns. But if you walk through one of those signs (assume the concealed sign or no guns sign, because only an idiot walks through a no open carry sign while doing that) you have not yet actually committed a crime. You are trespassing, and if the business owner/manager, or arguably even an employee, discovers that you are carrying a concealed firearm, he can ask you to leave. If you do not leave forthwith, you are now committing a criminal trespass and can be arrested.

But Texas has another sign folks here should be aware of. It is the 51% sign at a bar. If that kind of business makes 51% or more of its revenue from the sale of alcoholic beverages, it is a felony to enter the premises with a handgun. Period. Again, if you're bold enough to carry a concealed weapon in there and nobody knows..........then nobody knows.

Last year I went with a group of friends to our favorite bar, and one of us likes to carry his pistol in a belt holster under a coat. Always. His coat flaps back, the waitress sees the pistol, and summarily threw him out. I lectured him later about knowing better but some folks, well, you know.......

 

[THE PILGRIM]

Just the other day saw a dude at a gas station on a Reservation open carrying.
The Tribes make their own rules-laws, not sure if he was in violation.
Wasn't this Pueblo, but this give you an idea of Tribal thinking.
And I did not violate the No Pic Rule.
I was standing on a Highway Right of Way.
Most Tribes have a No Photography rule.

 

[Major 2]

"No guns" signs, at most businesses, carry no weight of law in Florida. Hence, even though Home Depot, some grocery stores, and a variety of other places have a "no guns" sign by their door, I worry not one little bit about carrying my full-sized M&P 2.0 into their store. The worst they can do is ask me to leave (if they happen to notice it, which they never do). If they ask me to leave, I will (and take my business elsewhere).

I like living in a state that (for the most part) respects my right, as a law-abiding citizen, to defend myself.

I also live in Florida, and agree the signs are at best a corporate suggestion requesting you to heed.

Ask Walmart how they feel now !

 

[Doriangray6]

Yeah if it is truly concealed how would they know if you are carrying? Unless they have metal detectors and security at the front doors but how likely is that?

Not here to argue about businesses' policies just stating what "I" do when I just go into this particular store once a month to buy groceries.
If you want to challenge a businesses' policies about whatever annoys you go for it.