Police Usage of 6" Revolvers?

JayFramer

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I know we've a lot of cops and LEOs on this board so I'd figure I'd ask: did you ever carry a revolver with a 6" barrel on duty? If not did you know anyone else who did or other departments that did?

Seems the 4" reigned supreme but I've heard of some using 6" guns. Just wondering how you liked it and what rig you used. Always interested in hearing old revolver duty stories!

Thanks!

-Jay
 
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My old partner was issued a 6" Colt Official Police when he joined the PA State Police in 1970, and carried it for several years. He didn't have any complaints about it, regretted not buying it when they were taken out of service.

The TV series "Adam 12" featured the 6" Model 14 in at least the first season, as that was LAPD used. The Model 14's were later replaced by the 4" Model 15.
 
My Dad carried a 6" .357 magnum Colt New Service before the war...... and after through the 60s..... he also had a 4" S&W M&P .38 (1946) and a 2" Colt Detective Special for court and off duty.

I think the 5 and 6 inch service revolver was more the norm through at least the mid-50 with the Model 19's introduction........ with a mix over the next 15 years or so...... think the Highway Patrolman in 6 and 4 inch..... with the 6" seemingly more common.........

I think the move to 4" guns really came about with officers/Depts switching to the 64,65 and 66 in the 70s.
 
I carried a Colt Official Police in 1975-76 then a S&W model 64 into the 80s. Most departments in RI carried 4" guns with a few exceptions, including the State Police which carried 6" model 66s in cross draw holsters with a lanyard. I think that Patrol in vehicles prompted the move to shorter barrel revolvers.
 
When I started in the late 70's, new officers primarily walked a "beat". With few exceptions, our feet did not see the inside of a car the first year or two. During that time I carried a nickel finished S & W Model 27, 6 inch revolver in a Safariland swivel holster with a thumbsnap. I recall that it had a snap that kept it from moving fore and aft while walking. On those occasions when you were in the car, the swivel was unsnapped and you could rotate the bottom of the holster forward for ease while sitting. I carried a Safariland Model 78HV dump pouch. The plastic liners were removed which permitted me to utilize two Bianchi Speed Strips which held an additional twelve rounds

When I went to my second and last department, patrol was primarily by vehicle and I opted for a Safariland Border Patrol holster for my Model 15 and eventually Model 66 and Model 686. These three remaining revolvers had 4 inch barrels.

As an aside, I opted for the 6 inch barrel because, back then, .357 magnums utilized slow-burning powders. The longer barrel served to more completely burn these powders resulting in less "flash", blast, and un-burned powder granules beneath the extractor star. Over the years with advances in smokeless powder and bullets, I see this now as a non-issue.

JM2C
 
I recall a number of the guys back in the early '70's carried 6" model 19's in the Bianchi model 27, front break holster.
 
I USED TO CARRY A 6" MODEL 629 WHEN I WAS IN PLAIN CLOTHES. I USUALLY STUCK WITH A 4" MODEL 57 WHEN IN UNIFORM. AS A MATTER OF FACT. WHEN I RETIRED 2 YEARS AGO I WAS THE LAST ONE AUTHORIZED TO CARRY A .41 MAG. I WAS GRANDFATHERED IN.

2 GUYS ON MY TEAM (PC) USED TO CARRY NICKEL MDL 25-5's. 1 CARRIED A 6" AND THE OTHER AN 8 3/8". BUT GEORGE (WHO CARRIED THE 8 3/8") WAS 6'6" TALL.
 
I have a '47 M&P 38 with a 6" barrel that was carries by a Chicago Police officer in the 40's and 50's. I've never seen a 6" carried by NYPD , but I didn't come on until the 80's.
 
Back when cops walked a beat 5" or 6" revolvers were fairly common, especially 5". When seated in a car they become as problem for most body types as they jab into the upholstery and can be very uncomfortable. I understand that is why swivel holsters became common for a while, before they started to switch to 4" tubes.
 
Speaking as a historian, not an officer, it appears that the policies of different agencies varied significantly.

For example, once NYPD began buying M&P’s and Colt OP’s directly from the factories in bulk for resale to their officers, no 5” or 6” barreled guns were available. They all came with 4”. That would have been in place about the end of WW II at the latest.

On the other hand, the California Highway Patrol specifically required a 6” barreled revolver from the time that regulations first appeared in the 1920s until 1976, when, with the introduction of the Models 67 and 68, the 4” became available, and other approved guns from Colt, S&W, and Ruger were also allowed with a 4” barrel.

Since, by definition, most CHP officers spent their patrol time in cars for several decades before 1976, I’m not sure any change from foot beat to vehicle patrol was a factor here ;)
 
Back in the early 80’s, I carried a six inch model 19 in a Safariland shoulder holster and later a model 29 for a while. I was in plainclothes and after a while I bought a model 66 four inch. It was so much lighter to carry. We had to purchase all of our own gear.
 
I tried a 6 inch Highway Patrolman for about a week, but it was uncomfortable sitting in the car.. I went back to my Model 58.

That Highway Patrolman rode in holster hanging from the gun rack in my pickup for 20 years while I was out at the ranch.
 
I know we've a lot of cops and LEOs on this board so I'd figure I'd ask: did you ever carry a revolver with a 6" barrel on duty? If not did you know anyone else who did or other departments that did?

Seems the 4" reigned supreme but I've heard of some using 6" guns. Just wondering how you liked it and what rig you used. Always interested in hearing old revolver duty stories!

Thanks!

-Jay

I went to the academy in 1986 and there was a big ole' fella' from a rural sheriff's department who brought along a 6" 586. Said they were issued them . . .
 
The first M10 that I bought was impulse purchase. Late 60s we
had a new Game Warden, he had bought 6" m10 and holster less
than a week before he came back to trade it on a 4". I happen to
be in the Gunshop when he came in for the trade. The owner
gave me a killer deal on the 6". By 70s most LEOs in our area
had 4" m19s. The old school guys with 5" & 6" guns were fading
away. 4"ers much easier to get in and out of vehicles with.
 
We carried 5" Model 10 (nickel) back when I was hired in 1976. About 1979 we all got new 4" Model 10 (nickel). The 4" ones were easier to carry in the car. The 5" holsters dug into the bench seat of the patrol cars pushing your gun belt up. Doesn't sound like a big deal but 8 hours in and out of the car it was. Around 1978 we began to get patrol cars with bucket seats which was a big deal especially if you were working a two man unit and you partner was tall and you were average height. Don't even know if they make cars with bench seats anymore!!
 
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