has ANY body shot & compared a s&w 642 or 636 lightweight 38's to taurus's 85 series lightweights????????????????? in my hand holding them they seem about the same,have'nt shot either,but my god the price of the smith's reeeaalllyy pricey.i know some of the diehards will say,"ya get what ya pay for",and i agree with that,i'm a s&w owner myself,but the tarus'ss don't look like there much diff...and they are priced much less.let's face it .it's kinda hard to "F" up a revolver.they either work or they don't,if ya know what i mean.please,some feed back,thanks folks.before you bash my loyalty,i mostly own s&w...................
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Sir, it's not at all hard to "F up" a revolver. Lesser makers have been doing it for generations, and even Colt, Smith, and Ruger are not immune. While it's true that they either work or don't, when they don't, it usually takes a skilled ($) gunsmith to fix it--if it can be fixed at all.
There's no free lunch, man. Quality costs.
That said, you might consider an older used Smith. They're cheaper than new, and arguably better if you get a pre-lock model.
Hope this helps, and Semper Fi.
Ron H.
ron,you sound like an old hard ass, been there- killed that marine."that said"..yes sir,i realize there is no free lunch.my dad was a 25 yr veteran of the hiway patrol.i also realize quality is important.that's why i own smith's.i learned that from him.any how,my inept way of putting my question was not to make my self sound cheap,bur merely wanted to know another option.i'm not looking for an older gun,just curious if any body had any expereince between the two.thank you for service of our country.....................
500 Magnum Nut
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Plus when you sell it for that new and improved blaster, you will get more money back.
I haven't shot one of the Smiths that you mention but I do have a 2" Taurus M85 Ti and love it. I will say that the trigger isn't quite like my other Smiths (shooting DA) I have but it works every time. I picked it up a while back used for a good deal and enjoy carrying it. It has the ported barrel so you have to really try to get it to jump in your hands with hot loads. It also doesn't weigh hardly anything and the small size makes it easy to fit in a pocket or IWB so you can carry all day.
500 Magnum Nut
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On the other side, you happen to shoot someone, the cops will keep your gun for a while. If your cleared of no wrong doing you will get it back, someday....
Taurus or S&W your choice...
Taurus or S&W your choice...
mydogtaz
Taurus can be hit or miss. The Model 85 seems to be better than a number of other Taurus models but I still worried about mine.
I finally traded mine for a 36 no dash pinned barrel. My carry gun is a S&W 37-2 with CT
If you look around you will find a used S&W for about the same price of a new Taurus maybe even cheaper.
As far as the cops taking your gun in the event of its use. There are only about 9,000 self defense shootings a year. About 70,000 times a year a gun is used for self defense without a shot being fired. The unreported number is much higher. The odds of you shooting someone in a self defense situation are slim
Taurus can be hit or miss. The Model 85 seems to be better than a number of other Taurus models but I still worried about mine.
I finally traded mine for a 36 no dash pinned barrel. My carry gun is a S&W 37-2 with CT
If you look around you will find a used S&W for about the same price of a new Taurus maybe even cheaper.
As far as the cops taking your gun in the event of its use. There are only about 9,000 self defense shootings a year. About 70,000 times a year a gun is used for self defense without a shot being fired. The unreported number is much higher. The odds of you shooting someone in a self defense situation are slim
sebastian
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I have an M85 and it works fine. The action is not as slick but it will shoot with the Smith, and it has a lifetime warrenty.
thanks guys,see, that's the kinda info i was hoping to get,someone who owned the taurus and liked it,but............. wasn't completely happy.and yes blaidd and falguy,i have dry fired both and the smith's seems much smoother,thanks for the honesty,your insight was appreciated.........taz
Falguy made a very good point. S&W revolvers are not ordinarily expensive, because you're not supposed to buy new ones. Used ones are still very reasonable, although this will surely not last forever.
Oops. Ron H. said this also, only he said it first. That's OK - it's worth repeating.
Oops. Ron H. said this also, only he said it first. That's OK - it's worth repeating.
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Have you considered the LCR?
Just curious...you didn't mention the Ruger LCR. I compared the S&W along with the Taurus and bought the LCR for ccw. The trigger is good as the 642 IMHO.
After thought, I have one Ruger for carry and the S&Ws are in the safe. Just my $.02.
Just curious...you didn't mention the Ruger LCR. I compared the S&W along with the Taurus and bought the LCR for ccw. The trigger is good as the 642 IMHO.
After thought, I have one Ruger for carry and the S&Ws are in the safe. Just my $.02.
I've never owned a Taurus but I've had several S&W revolvers over my lifetime. I like Smiths a lot. But they are not immune to problems. Of the five I've bought new, three had everything from a minor fit problem (that should have been caught before it ever left the factory) to major functional problems. That's a pretty high percentage of defects based on one customer's experience.
On the otherhand, the cheapest revolver I ever owned was a Charter Arms .38 Special that I abused, neglected and beat to hell for over 25 years and it always functioned great. But when the day came that extractor froze up, I trashed it rather than spend the money to repair it. If it was a S&W I would have had it repaired without hesitation.
On the otherhand, the cheapest revolver I ever owned was a Charter Arms .38 Special that I abused, neglected and beat to hell for over 25 years and it always functioned great. But when the day came that extractor froze up, I trashed it rather than spend the money to repair it. If it was a S&W I would have had it repaired without hesitation.
After owning 2 taurus products that both broke internal parts after very little shooting and selling them both at a loss I'll never own anymore Taurus crap. Smiths for me all the way.
Revolver-time
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I would second saying to look at the Ruger LCR. My wife was choosing a new CCW and looked at a discontinued Colt Detective Special, a utralight Taurus, and the LCR. She settled on the LCR.
Allen-frame
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Friends don't let friends own Taurus'.
Found this úsed' for $300. As far as a J carry I would choose no other.With patience great deals can be found.
Regards ,,Allen Frame
Found this úsed' for $300. As far as a J carry I would choose no other.With patience great deals can be found.
Regards ,,Allen Frame
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