Pre Model 27

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I just came into possession of a well worn but well cared for, 5 inch, "5 screw", ".357 Magnum", pre-model 27. The bluing is holster worn along the barrel and high spots along the entire cylinder. The cylinder locks up tight with little end shake or play, and there is no corrosion or any signs of neglect, no pitting, or anything other than 60 years of wear. The nice Goncalo Alves Target grips are not original, but are in good shape as well. This revolver was the sidearm of a police officer who was the father of a longtime friend and brother officer. Just from reading what I could find before joining this forum, I am pretty sure this revolver was made during the early 50s, like '53 or early '54. I have offered my friend $500.00 for it, and am wondering what a fair price would be. The serial number is: S 1027xx. I know that the screw at the top of the side plate, later discontinued (1956?) makes it a "5 screw", but does "5 screw" include the mainspring strain screw near the bottom of the grip frame?, otherwise, I can't come up with 5.
Thanks for any information you can provide about this fine old working revolver. (the worn condition of this gun would be the reason for Smith coming out with the "Highway Patrolman" for LE officers later. It's almost a shame to subject a beautifully finished "Cadillac" like this to every day weather and holster wear, and LE officers could more readily afford a plainer version, more suitable for everyday service use and wear.)
 
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Original grips alone are worth $500...period coorrect even..

well..if you paid $500 for the gun...wow..

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No, the "5 screws" do not include the strain screw. Four are side plate screws, then there is the cylinder retaining screw in the front of the yoke. The 5th screw, and first eliminated, was the top side plate screw you mentioned. Later the screw in the front of the yoke was deleted, hence the "four screw" and "three screw" iterations. The 5th screw you're not seeing is probably the lower/rear side plate screw which is covered by the target grips.

JMO, of course, but I think if your friend is willing to sell for $500 it would be a good deal for you. You're not likely to find a pre-model .357 for less than that, and could easily pay quite a bit more. Nice shooter grade specimens tend to sell at a grand or more, and can go up from there depending on condition, original grips, box and accessories, etc..
 
then there is the cylinder retaining screw in the front of the yoke.
Close but no brass ring. :)

The screw in the front of the trigger guard is the cylinder stop plunger retaining screw. It keeps the plunger and spring in place for the cylinder stop. It was deleted around 1960, when the installation procedure for the cylinder stop was altered. And yes, the top sideplate screw was eliminated in 1956.

The screw that retains the yoke (hence, the cylinder) is the front sideplate screw, located just above the trigger and below the cylinder. It is of different length than the other sideplate screws.
 
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IMNEO $800-$1,000 gun. The 5" is desirable. Lack of original stocks hurts but still a sought after model. Your friend wants to sell his dad's duty sidearm?
 
You say this revolver is S 1027xx. That should be a five-screw frame.

I have a five-screw pre-Model 27 with s/n S117416. It shipped in July, 1954 - a birth year gun for me, but not my birth month.

Curl
 
I managed to pick up a Pre-27 6" with original grips in very good "shooter" condition for a bit under $400. I got lucky, and would have given much, much more.
 
You say this revolver is S 1027xx. That should be a five-screw frame.

I have a five-screw pre-Model 27 with s/n S117416. It shipped in July, 1954 - a birth year gun for me, but not my birth month.

Curl

1954 would be the birth year for me too buy not July for me either.

I have a very nice 3.5" from 1955-56(??). Shipped December 1963, according to Jinks, with a S/N of S150152. He thought my gun was shipped late for it's number, as others in the same range shipped in 1955 and 1956.
 
I would give photo credit if I remembered where I found this.
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A very desirable gun in a very desirable barrel length. But condition is everything. Pictures would help a lot. Especially of the stocks on which value can vary quite a bit.
Best guess from the description, I'd say $800-1000.
 
"(the worn condition of this gun would be the reason for Smith coming out with the "Highway Patrolman" for LE officers later.)"

S&W built the Highway Patrolman as a plainer finished .357 so that law enforcement could afford to buy one. Hence the two barrel lengths, 4" and 6" and the matte finish, as opposed to the highly polished .357 with more barrel options.
 
"(the worn condition of this gun would be the reason for Smith coming out with the "Highway Patrolman" for LE officers later.)"

S&W built the Highway Patrolman as a plainer finished .357 so that law enforcement could afford to buy one. Hence the two barrel lengths, 4" and 6" and the matte finish, as opposed to the highly polished .357 with more barrel options.

Not a lot more.... in the 50s post Registered Magnum era..... the pre 27 .357 was cataloged in 3 1/2" , 5", 6 1/2" and 8 & something.


There were some special order 4" guns built..... don't know about other lengths.
 
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